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  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, now that we have a proof Vando is alive and can play... it's time to do the trade. With Vando, Bron and DFS being able to play the wing, Rui isn't exactly needed at this point. Getting a center would clearly improve the team; even if said center lacks some D, some combination of Vando, Max, DFS and Gabe will mitigate that.
     
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    exactly this, get either Vuc or Valanciunas, or whoever can be brought in with 2nds only, and roll the dice.
     
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    Top 15 protected RUI JHS for Vucevic and throw in
     
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    no firsts that extend beyond when vuc is helping us. that's why i suggested a 2026 swap that's top-10 or lotto protected. that and one of our seconds should be plenty.

    sorry, this is all part of my weird personal rules about trading picks. basically, you don't want to still be paying the bill years after you get your meal.

    like, we traded a ton of stuff for AD, and it will have all come due after this year. totally fine with that. AD is still playing at an all-nba level, and everything else is gravy after this. you don't want to be handing over a 2029 first rounder and trying to remember 3 years ago when vucevic last suited up for you.
     
  5. KareemtheGreat33

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    Yes but we probably won’t get anyone good
     
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    doesn't appear to be anyone really good on the market this year, imo. so, no. we shall not.
     
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    He was around 35% with us. Which isn’t far from where he is today around 37% - he has been quite good on the corner threes the whole time. But what’s more impressive than the decent shooting that does allow him to be played on the perimeter is his defence that really blossomed in the right system. Alongside AD he would of been great defensively.

    The last 18 months have been really busy career wise so I’ve struggled to post here consistently and at quality. But when I saw murmurs about Turner I just wanted to throw my 2 cents into the ring - will it into existence haha.

    I think he is just a perfect fit next to AD. Both are top 5 defensive bigs. The Gafford/Lively combo really catapulted Dallas last year and I think the AD / Turner combo is considerably better. We would be really hard to score on internally and then you’ve got Gabe, Christie, Vando and DFS on the perimeter.

    Offensively, we could play 4-1 or 5 out depending on the personnel on the floor with another good shooter added in the form of Turner.

    I think it takes two firsts to get Turner. I’d offer Rui, Hayes or Reddish + 2 firsts. If it comes down to whether we keep Knecht or not, that’s something I take a long hard look at.

    I think Turner raises us to contender level in line with Boston, Cleveland, OKC and Denver. Gives us a 2 year window for another championship before Lebron rides off. Leaves us with AD, Turner, Reaves, Christie and hopefully Knecht after LBJ retires.
     
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    Turner over Vuc if we're going in that direction.

    Vuc is cool, though. Don't mind it.

    Don't think Indiana trades Turner to us, unfortunately. I don't think AK will mind trading Vuc.
     
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    Absolutely Turner would be the dream get for Center. I just don’t think that deal will be there. I’m out on Valanciunas now with Gabe playing well. I like Kessler but fear the ask is too high. With Vando back I’m even more sold on Rui and Wood for Vuc. Clear out the logjam at forward, get a 20 and 10 center. Go to war.
     
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    Yeah. Turner is instantly the number one target for me if he’s available.

    Turner —- Kessler —- Vuc

    Vuc seems to be the most obtainable and I’d be good with that addition.
     
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    Time to get a big man for sure

    Hopefully Rob didn't watch this game and think we don't need one now
     
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    That makes sense. I like that. But, Lakers would need to be pretty confident that they are still going to be pretty good next season though. Also, Chicago might not want to bother with that if they feel they are going to be worse than us anyway, especially since they are tanking, and going into a rebuild.
     
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    I'm fine with giving up a top-15 protected 1st. In this type of trade though, we would also have to receive a second-round pick back because we dont't have anymore to give them if the pick doesn't convey. We could also include one of our 25 seconds to make up for the other team potentially loosing a future 2nd.
     
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    The lakers probably rank a Kessler/Sexton deal highest to balance out this roster.Vuc would seem to be second on the list with all others following behind.I don’t believe Turner is available or I would rank him higher
     
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    Pacers are 8-2 in their last 10 and have climbed up to 5th in the East after a disappointing start. I get wanting to get something for Turner if you don't plan on re-signing him, but him spacing the floor at the 5 is foundational to their offense. Would be a massive change to make to your offense midseason when you're right in the playoff mix. I'm very skeptical Turner is available but yeah he'd easily be the top target for me.
     
  16. showtime24

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    I do not understand all of the interest in Sexton. Sure, he does check the box as an athletic guard, and he could provide bench scoring. He does have value as a 6th man on a team that is already a good three-point shooting team. However, he prefers to shoot the mid-range over the three-pointer, and he is an awful defender. We are currently 28th in the NBA in three-point field goal attempts, 27th in three-point field goals made, and 28th in opponents field goal percentage at the rim (due to weak perimeter defense). Sexton does not help in any of these categories.
     
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    yeah, i'll be very surprised if he's moved and doubly surprised if he's moved in something that doesn't involve a current impact player coming back. again, this reminds me of the last time everyone claimed he was available and then...he signed an extension. which didn't stop everyone from being mad about us not getting him in a trade (that was probably never going to happen, just like this one).

    and again, i almost hope he's NOT available right now, as i think it could muck up the center trade market for us if he was.
     
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    i'm still on the olynyk/mitchell for rui train.

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/articl...ards-with-nbas-trade-deadline-two-weeks-away/
     
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    We are 28th in the NBA in points allowed in the paint. How much of this is due to our perimeter defense, and how much is due to our interior defense? I'm pretty sure it's mostly due to our weak perimeter defense because we have a top-tier rim protector in Anthony Davis. I know blocking shots is only part of the equation in terms of interior defense, and AD perhaps just doesn't have the toughness and/or girth to be and effective interior defender at the 5. It looks like we are going to go get a center now, especially since AD requested one, but we should also try to get a perimeter defender to cover our bases. We also need to try and improve, our at the very least not hurt our three-point shooting in the process. This could be a bit tricky, with AD not able to space the floor as a power forward. It really limits us. Both AD and AR are difficult fits, in terms of you have to pair them with a specific player (limited). Example: AD needs a stretch 5 that is not a bad interior defender, and AR needs a 3 and D athletic guard who preferably could somewhat handle the ball. So, it does make it tough.
     

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