Official Las Vegas Raiders Thread

Discussion in 'Other Sports Discussion' started by trodgers, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Here's a crazy stat. AOC's 7 wins tie him for 14th all-time among Raiders QBs.

    Here's AOC compared to the other 7-win QBs.
    AOC 7-9 (paid $4.5m)
    Jeff George 7-16 ($12m)
    Jamarcus Russell 7-18 (paid $64m)
    Kerry Collins 7-21 ($8m)

    He has also now thrown as many TD passes as Russell with 10 INTs vs. Russell's 23. Sorry to dredge this up.
     
    puffyusaf#2 likes this.
  2. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Good: LVR have a single (I think) Pro Bowler this year - Brock Bowers. What a season!

    Bad: Vrabel is already interviewing for other positions...
     
    puffyusaf#2 likes this.
  3. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Jets talking to Vrabel. This is where Brady earns his ownership stripes if he can convince him to go with us.

    Jaxson Dart?
     
    trodgers likes this.
  4. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Raiders 19
    Chargers 24
    Would love to send off Harbaugh with a loss.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  5. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Do you think the NIL stuff is making it harder for us (older) fans to assess QBs? So many of them seem like, well, I hate the word but Divas.
     
  6. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Bummer of a season.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  7. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Chargers recover the onside kick. Game's over. Season's over.
     
  8. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Yes. When Cam Ward refused to play in the second half of their bowl game I wasn't surprised. Sanders has talent BUT I am beginning to think he has been hyped more than he deserves.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  9. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Ben Johnson to interview for Patriot HC job. I don't think we're an attractive option for him to begin with. Good news if we want Vrabel.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  10. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    AP's gone.

    Mixed emotions. Get some damn stability.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  11. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Yes.. A young OC that can scheme and be the lead. No retreads please. Saleh for DC.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  12. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Vrabel likely to New England.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  13. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Not a surprise.
     
  14. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Here's my "Big Board" for known targets, just in terms of performance. When a coach has been a head coach, we can do a little calculating to see how good or bad they were compared to average (0.0). I put AP on there for comparison.

    +3.2 Pete Carroll
    +0.7 Mike Vrabel
    +0.4 Matt Nagy
    -0.5 Ron Rivera
    -0.6 Rex Ryan
    -2.8 Antonio Pierce
    -3.1 Brian Flores
    -3.5 Vance Joseph 11-21 (-113)
    -4.3 Arthur Smith
    -5.2 Robert Saleh 20-36 (-293)
    -6.0 Darren Rizzi 3-5 (-48)
    -6.2 Jeff Ulbrich 3-9 (-74)
    -7.2 Thomas Brown 1-4 (-36)
    -10.6 Steve Spagnuolo 11-41 (-549)

    Current Interview Targets
    Ben Johnson, OC, Detroit
    Aaron Glenn, DC, Detroit

    Johnson has overseen one of the best offenses in the NFL, as his offenses have been in the top 90% of offenses in yards and points scored. He had the top offense in 2024. They've done it with Jared Goff, an above average QB, but not someone who had this level of sustained success prior to teaming up with Johnson.

    Glenn has overseen pretty average defenses in his four seasons. In fact, they've mostly been below average. His teams have been in the 25% and 34th% in yards and points allowed. Patrick Graham's, by comparison, have been 40th and 39th by comparison.

    If we have to choose one of these guys, I like Johnson. He's young, and we might be able to lock him up for, say four years on a friendly deal for both sides. Let him build up the team in his vision.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  15. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Telesco fired. Totally NEW regime incoming.
     
    trodgers likes this.
  16. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Again...
     
  17. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Mark Davis hired Korn Ferry, an organization that does searches to fill positions. They've done some GM and Head Coach searches for the NFL. Among the head coaches they've helped hire:

    Pete Carroll - Seattle
    Andy Reid - Chiefs
    Jim Harbaugh - Michigan
    Bruce Arians - Bucs

    What they all had in common was a good history of winning, at whatever level they'd been at.

    Arians 49-30-1 (+2.9) (also 9-3 as interim)
    Harbaugh 44-19 (+5.9) in the NFL prior to Michigan, 29-21 at Stanford (+5.9)
    Carroll 33-31 in the NFL (+1.0), 97-19 at USC (it's a huge positive number, but it takes time, as I have to look at each season individually)
    Reid 130-93-1 before KC (+3.4)

    So, my system would have ranked these coaches this way, based only on NFL stats:
    Harbaugh
    Reid
    Arians
    Carroll.

    How did they fare at their next job, the one they were hired for?
    Harbaugh (went 89-25 at Michigan, won a national title)
    Reid (has gone 143-53, with three titles)
    Arians (has gone 49-30-1, with one title)
    Carroll (went 137-89-1 with one title)
     
  18. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Ben Johnson OC
    -Tentative score: +6.2
    Pros: His offenses have been pretty good.
    Cons: He doesn't run a defense or make personnel decisions.

    Aaron Glenn DC
    -Tentative score: +2.5
    Pros: His overall score is great.
    Cons: None of his defenses have performed well statistically before this season (7th best defense).

    Todd Monken?
    -Tentative score: +1.8
    --(-2.7 at TB)
    --(-3.6 at CLE)
    --(+10.6 at BAL)
    Pros: His Baltimore teams have been elite on offense.
    Cons: He has more poor seasons (4) than above average seasons (2).

    It's so hard to evaluate these guys before they're in HC position. I'd take Johnson out of any of these guys. After that, I don't know. Whatever team Monken is on won't have Lamar Jackson. A team could have a Jared Goff type player.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  19. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    18,563
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Online
    Vrabel has been hired by the Pats. Bummer.
     
  20. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    20,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Wondering IF he would hire McDaniels as his OC...
     
    trodgers likes this.

Share This Page