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Yeah, that's true. Pelicans have a bit of duplication with Murphey, who like Jones; is a 6-8 two way wing. Murphey just signed a large extension. They also just drafted Hawkins, who is another wing, and they still have BI. They also have McCollum. So they are as deep as they come at the wing. They also have Murray and Alvardo. We have duplication with unathletic guards, such a0s Reaves, Dlo, Vincent, JHS, etc.

 

Oh the guy who broke his hand punching a wall, I misread and thought he’s an obscure player from Charlotte lol

 

I get it though. Jones is low-key and wouldn't be the sexiest acquisition. He's under rated. Some casual fans might get upset, but he is nonetheless an effective NBA player on a good contract, like Reaves.

 

Looks like our Jokic stopper too, held him to only 56

 

Davion Mitchell should be an option as POA defender

 

Pelicans pissed off the wrong witch doctor




Might impact their ability to move him too

 

lu dort's dirty a** out there doin' work.

 

Yeah he would fit really good here. But I think Toronto rates him and wouldn't spend FRPs on him

Also a good fit here if it doesn't require a FRP.
I think he will look even better around stars. He went down a bit in Brooklyn because he's asked to do more than he should. In the Vando role he would excel, imo.

Him, Schroder, Bruce Brown, Valenciunas, Nick Richards, Thybulle, Reath are all guys I would be interested

 

i occasionally try to talk myself into davion mitchell, but every time, i'm like dennis smith is just out there waiting for someone to call. i'm not sure smith isn't better than mitchell, tbh. stats say he definitely is. i think he's a lotto reclamation project for the right team.

 

Mitchell is a quasi-elite defender. Dennis is not. But I get your point. DSJ is definitely worthy of an NBA spot
Davion is also younger and there's always that untapped potential expectation

 

Thybulle is hand down the best option, but the problem is, he is injured too. I think it said 3-6 weeks last I checked. So, maybe defeats the purpose of getting a replacement for Vando.

 

Lakers get: LaVine, Terry, Craig

Bulls get: Russell, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, JHS, 2025 Clippers 2nd, and 2027 Lakers 2nd

Knecht has shown that an elite three-point shooter as the third option is a good formula next to Lebron and AD. Only DK must be struggling with consistency due to being a rookie. Enter LaVine, who is an established shooter, who has a game similar to DK, only he is more athletic. LaVine does not solve our defensive problems, but he does ensure that we have that consistent third-scoring threat night in and night out. Terry, on the other hand, is a good defender and is only 22. Terry is a 6-7 wing, capable of defending 1-3. In his young career, he has a 0.1 DBPM, which puts him at around average as a defender. However, the previous two seasons his dBPM was much better. He is a plus defender. Terry is also one of the best in the league at getting deflections. Craig is a veteran shooter, who is also an above average defender. Also career 0.1 DBPM. Lakers just give up peaces that are not much help, and two picks to help balance the trade, since the Bulls may be reluctant to include Terry.

 

hmmm...by what measure? the metrics i like best have dsj putting three consecutive high impact years in a row defensively, but actually have mitchell grading out the opposite way. neither can shoot. they're of similar size.

i feel like mitchell's got an undeserved rep at the nba level, and dsj's been typecast as a non-defender when he's actually pretty good at it?

 

You're right. That was my impression of him in the eye test and history in the league, but it looks like I was wrong, I looked it up and DSJ seems like a pretty good defender.
He has been playing in some bad teams and couldn't make it in the good ones which influences that perception. He had plus 120 defensive rating 4 years in a row, but it seems it was more team related.

Head scratcher why he can't make it in the NBA then? Gabe got 30 mil lol

 

i'm not sure i'm right, tbh. i just can't find measures i like that love mitchell. my eye test says he's a dog who disrupts. but the numbers suggest it comes at some other cost (possibly him being so useless offensively that you're playing in transition most of the time on defense).

anyway, i try not to rely solely on stats as context matters and even stats that try to quantify context are messy.

it's possible that dsj's good defensive numbers are partly a product of playing on bad teams with lots of bad defenders that made his stats look better, etc.

i just think that before i pour assets into getting a mitchell, i'd rather look at dsj (or olivari).

 

Great point regarding Olivari. We really need to see what we have in him. Smith Jr. is a plus defender, he has a career 0.1 DBPM. But is only 29% career from three on low volume. For a vet minimum, you can't expect much though. Might be better off paying Smith 2M, than Gabe 11M. I like Terry from Chi. He is 0.1 dbpm and is 6-7 with 7 foot wing span and 8-10 standing reach.

 

DAMN!

Has there ever been a better back to back?