JJ Redick Discussion: New Lakers Head Coach!

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  1. OX1947

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    Lakers aint winning s*** whether they played or not so I would rather they play and win the Gold. USA first.
     
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    i do think their motivation for playing in the olympics was that they knew it was going to be an accolade--and those aren't forthcoming in the nba. i actually wondered if the IST wasn't the same thing last year--this is a thing we can win, so we should go all out.

    problem for both guys (especially lebron) is that it's hard to commit to the daily grind that it takes to put you in position to win an nba title these days. in the west, you can't take random games in december off. you'll be in the play-in, facing the defending champs in the first round without home court advantage.
     
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    In their defense, I think there would also have been backlash had they not gone coming off us losing with the 2023 World Cup team Maybe not AD, but certainly Lebron who I'm sure USA basketball worked to get on board along with Steph and Durant.

    It's not a championship but the league definitely does care how we do in those.
     
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    There is no f***ing way that Reddick is worse coach..
    Tier 9: We don't know enough
    30. JJ Redick, Lakers
    29. Brian Keefe, Wizards
    28. Charles Lee, Hornets
    27. Jordi Fernandez, Nets
    26. Darko Rajakovic, Raptors

    Tier 8: I wouldn't be enthused
    25. Chauncey Billups, Trail Blazers
    24. Billy Donovan, Bulls
    23. JB Bickerstaff, Pistons
    22. Doc Rivers, Bucks

    Tier 7: You look promising, but it's still a tad early
    21. Kenny Atkinson, Cavaliers
    20. Willie Green, Pelicans
    19. Jamahl Mosley, Magic


    Tier 6: Middle of the road
    18. Jason Kidd, Mavericks
    17. Taylor Jenkins, Grizzlies
    16. Quin Snyder, Hawks
    15. Michael Malone, Nuggets

    Tier 4: Obvious floor-raisers
    13. Mike Brown, Kings
    12. Chris Finch, Timberwolves
    11. Joe Mazzulla, C Bags
    10. Tom Thibodeau, Knicks
    9. Mike Budenholzer, Suns
    8. Ime Udoka, Rockets

    Tier 3: The Wunderkinds
    7. Will Hardy, Jazz
    6. Mark Daigneault, Thunder

    Tier 2: The elites
    5. Ty Lue, Clippers
    4. Steve Kerr, Warriors
    3. Rick Carlisle, Pacers
    2. Nick Nurse, 76ers

    And
    Tier 1: The undisputed king
    1. Erik Spoelstra, Heat

    P.S.Pop in his own tier 4 Living legend number 14

    Go JJ .Shock the f***ing NBA media

    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
     
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    I really don’t see that as a shot at Redick, he’s literally the only coach on the list that hasn’t had a single minute of pro coaching experience, not even summer league. He could end up a fantastic coach, but as of now he’s entirely an unknown entity, it would probably be insulting to rank him above any other NBA coach, even Ham were he eligible, because one guy coached in the NBA playoffs and one has never coached.
     
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    i feel like jenkins has proven more than a lot of guys. he was someone that i'd had my eye on as we cycled through coaches. he's getting blamed for memphis's injuries when instead he should have been praised for their pre-injury overachievement, imo.

    btw, five years ago, everyone would have had doc in the top 5 and mike brown in the bottom 5, so maybe it's more complicated than "this guy is just a great coach".

    i do agree that pop, spoelstra, and, imo, rick carlisle all had very long track records of doing more with whomever they've got.

    but i think steve kerr has no data without curry, so i can't really judge. pop's so/so results post-duncan are also kind of a ding for me. nick nurse has been more hype than results for me, as has ty lue. both guys got an early ring from one player's freak dominance and have basically been meh since.
     
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    Right. We will see where JJ ends up but right now we quite literally don't know enough to rank him.
     
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    In JJ's favor, he does have a great mind on the court in LeBron and can take a step forward from Ham by just trusting the analytics and playing his best guys.

    His inexperience and the health of the roster are legit concerns right now though.
     
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    I also really like the fact that we added some legit NBA HC’s to the coaching roster in Brooks and McMillan. They can be leaned on for help in tough situations such as the playoffs. And just in advising in general during the regular season. Ham did not have that at his disposal nor would he have listened I think even if he had. He was way too stubborn.
     
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    i've actually heard that clip before, though, and i found it interesting that he used denver as the example--i wonder if he was trying to explain that "out" just meant out of the paint/basket area. this may be why he name drops gordon specifically there, imo.

    this definitely is at odds with his stated desire for a bruiser, though. i mean, you can use them to set perimeter screens, but defenses will eventually just switch those if they're hurting them, and you end up having to post your big. the clips can do this with zubac, but vet min level big bodies don't really allow it.

    i wish we hired a coach who wanted to coach our personnel instead of some other team's, though. we don't have great shooters, particularly at the big spots. work around it.
     
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    I liked his explanation. It's not five out to jack up 3s. It's 5 out to have space to operate in pursuing the best shots for your personnel. Which bodes well with using AD as the hub like JJ talked about, so the paint is clear to be attacked by him or Bron.
    Let's see how it works out

    I'm sensing we will have the best off ball movement we've probably seen in the Lakers. Which should take time to optimize but I think it's a big thing in JJ's view of the game. Bron and AD will be insanely great with that, being able to set up others in a fluid manner.
     
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    i love putting AD at the elbow extended with lebron on the opposite wing or top of the key, reaves on the strong side corner/45 area, dlo in the opposite corner and rui in the strong side corner. if vando's playing i'd put him in the opposite corner and dlo on the strong side, which would mean AD could beat his guy and have vando diving for a dunk with no help.
     
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    That’s a lot of corners. I would just hire Deion Sanders, and have it all covered.
     
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    yeah, i said reaves corner or 45 at the three point line, but 45 is probably the better spot with a weaker spot up shooter in that corner. obviously, you have actions that move you in and out of that configuration--that's just the one i think is hardest to defend with our current personnel.
     
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