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I think the easiest move would be to move Dlo/JHS/Lewis for Brown. If they had kept Spence I think I would have liked this but now with just Gabe as the PG not sure.
Throw in some seconds to make it work and TO can take a flier but as noted (and I'm not sure if possible) would be to try to keep the core together including Dlo and add Brown.

 

That's what Tinkerbell does.

 

The issue here is this, if we are to assume, that these reports about us pursuing Grant are accurate, then we should also assume that all these reports, about us trying to move Tinkerbell, are accurate too.

This means that Rob and JJ, have considered his contributions to the team, and still find him lacking, and want to move in a different direction.

I don't get why this seems to be soo incredulous around here. We want to win the 4 playoffs series that it takes to win a chip...NOW. They don't believe he's a guy that we can rely on in order to make that happen. Me neither, I've just been saying it since the Conference Finals loss.

 

When it comes to Grant specifically, allegedly Portland wants two FRP, also allegedly, the Lakers don't want to give up any picks. It's posturing going on, with both sides IMO. If the trade actually happens, the price will be somewhere in the middle. 1 pick, and a swap or two sounds fair to me.

 

@Weezy
Yes that’s one way of looking at it. I gave you mine. All in, as you have said yourself giving up picks now for questionable improvement isn’t it. And your way blowing it up early everything has to go right to even get back to where we are next few years. We saw that for 6 years with great draft luck. Personally I’m in no hurry to be there again.

 

We aren't blowing up anything, trading for guys still in their prime. Trading young talent, for a veteran on the downside of their career is another thing, I haven't seen any trade proposals for us involving that scenario though.

 

Oh bull s*** …. you’re overboard on the hater end seriously.

 

See I still consider us above middle of the pack as do others here, needing one or two pieces. And of course the LUCK of health same as every other team, if we get those pieces.

 

I’m willing to put stock into sourced information about how trade negotiations have gone, but I don’t think a player’s internal motivation is necessarily something that this type of intel is going to be able to speak definitively to

I didn’t watch the podcast, but it seems like we’re going through so many layers here. Irwin is hearing this from some guys who cover the Blazers that Grant would like to win more but it’s not the most important thing in the world? Who are these Blazers guys? How close are they truly to the team and Grant? I’d argue that Irwin himself isn’t close enough to the Lakers to be able to speak on the internal private motivations of Lakers players. What makes his friends who cover the Blazers an authority on Grant’s private motivations? Are they actually around the Blazers and Grant all the time? Even if so, a player isn’t going to necessarily be fully transparent about his desires to all media personnel.

Like even if a Blazers beat reporter who is always at Blazers practices has heard that Grant is content where he’s at, and feel that he’s been going through the motions with the Blazers rather than being dedicated to winning… it would still be a reach IMO to conclude that Grant isn’t motivated to win.

I think it’s quite plausible that Grant isn’t extremely motivated to win… in his current situation with a dumpster fire franchise that is rebuilding (for which it was reasonable for him to accept the massive contract from regardless of his desire to win). I think it’s a reach to conclude that he wouldn’t prioritize winning in a different environment that is more conducive to winning and comes with those expectations built in

I would bet that beat reporters around the Wizards a few years ago never got the sense that winning was one of Rui’s primary motivations. But that shouldn’t and didn’t preclude us from trading for him when the value was right. And now that he’s here, he does seem much more motivated to win.

So I agree with the assessment on trading for Grant. It may not be worth it depending on the Blazers ask for a variety of reasons: mainly his contract, and his skill level/age compared to the package of players we’d have to give up. I just don’t think these reports about “he’s not the most motivated to win” should carry much weight in that evaluation compared to these other factors.

 

Where the hell have you been for these last two playoffs? What games were you watching?

 

I know what going through the motions means vs getting out physicaled or getting cold against the tough Denver defense.

 

After your defense of Westbrook I question your observational skills or sincerity in debate anyway.

 

Tough defense my a**.

Westbrook ain't here, you can't fall back on that line forever.

The book on this guy is pretty straight forward. If his shot is falling, he's engaged, sometimes electric. If his shots aren't dropping he disappears and doesn't contribute anything, on either end.

That's why they are trying to move him.

 

And that’s your fallback now of course he’s not here any more. So what? You were full of crap about him for two years and counting. So your end all debate statements about DLO don’t mean jack … they’re just your overboard hater opinions now that don’t recognize any value he has to this team, which he has. So stuff it with the authoritative opinions. You blew it with Westbrook.

 

Meh..I'll leave you with your franchise player opinion on the Westbrook situation.
https://lakersnation.com/lakers-new...ugh-for-russell-westbrook-to-adjust-his-game/

Back to Tinkerbell, why do you think that WE, are the one calling folks, trying to move him?
You don't think that Rob and JJ, are aware of his awesome value to the team?