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  1. KuzmoBall17

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    And Milwaukee stars injured too.
    Lillard didn't practice Tuesday or Wednesday due to lingering groin and abductor injuries, Jamal Collier of ESPN.com reports.
    They already missing Giannis
     
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    crazy that butler even managed to finish the game with that injury. he's one tough SOB in a league full of p******. a throwback to the old days
     
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    Hypothetical between two bad 3rd star ideas


    would you rather have 3 years* of Dame at this stage in his career for DLO, Rui, JHS, and a first?
    [Maybe only two years, when the cap spikes maybe he opts out of that final year and chases a fat final year somewhere else]

    Or


    Sell the farm for 3 years* of Trae? That would require Austin, Rui, finding a 3rd team for DLO, three firsts and probably at least one swap
    [Trae has an ETO, so maybe it's only two years but after giving up everything you hope not]
     
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    Trae isn't the guy for me. Unfortunately, he's with Klutch.

    I don't really want him. If you're going all in, you have to get this right. Going all in for AD was the right move. The second move has to be the same; a surefire All-Star.
     
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    These teams are going to have give up assets to dump Lillard and Trae. yeah they're good players but one is past his prime and Trae has severe flaw so you have two guys who are getting max contract money which means in the new CBA they will basically handcuff your ability to do other transactions. These dudes arent' Tatum and Brown -dudes entering their primes who are excellent two way players

    Reality is going to have to hit here as the market for these two guys is going to be non-existent. Bucks and Hawks are basically hoping for a team which is both desperate and stupid to bail them out. s*** happens (i.e. the Nets trade to get Garnett/Pierce) but you have to think that the after effect of those trades lessens the likelihood that teams will pulls the same kind of stupid move in the future
     
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    Me neither. Dl is a more accurate shooter, better defender, and lower usage ball handler. Dlo is a better fit for the current team at point guard. Now, if someone like LeMelo Ball were available, it would be a different story. If Lakers are looking to add a star now, to replace Lebron in the long term, then with the players rumored to be available, I guess Mitchell would make the most sense. He makes a good 10 million less per year than Young too.
     
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    Unbelievably tough. I’ve never heard of a player endure THREE more quarters of play after a major injury. He’s at the top of the short list of guys still playing who have the Mamba Mentality.
     
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    I love Dame but no way do I give up the farm for him at this point. I’d still take him over Trae Young though. Dame is a killer. Mitchell is the only one I’d go in for mainly because he’s improved on D, he’s young, and as mentioned you don’t have to give up quite as much to get him salary wise. With that said I’m still not convinced that I would rather trade for him than reup Dlo and hold onto Reaves and Rui.
     
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    Remember how I brought up how Trae will dribble the air out of the ball?



    Not only does he accomplish that here but it's also a beautiful defensive masterclass
     
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    Hell no to Both FFS. Run It Back with a good (even lower tier “good”) young starting level, genuine sized (backup/twin tower) center and a better coach, with something “smart” done with DLO rather than option of just letting him walk. If Ham does well in the playoffs and we make at least the WCF finals or Finals and don’t lose “because of him” he can come back …. with an understanding that it won’t be tolerated again in regular season for the “obviously” Stupid management of the roster the FO gives him. IOW there’s going to be a short leash regardless.

    May still be moot for Ham unless a ring IF LeBron and AD want him gone. Just facts.
     
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    Mitchell is kind of the same for me. Plays little defense and has a 'tude. Pass.
     
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    Are we sure Quinn Snyder is this brilliant basketball savant: ball screens between young and Murray aren't exactly hard to counter. That screams switch every time
     
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    I agree 100%. Lakers are 19-6 with this strating 5. That is equivelent to a 62 win season, so there is a strong arguement to keep this group together. We will see how they do in the playoffs. If we do well, then we should run it back. It would be interesting to see what the group would do in 82 games. I'm I'm favor of running it back, but if Lakers feel compelled to execute a trade, then Mitchell would make the most sense. Salary wise, he fits. He would be an upgrade at the 2 in terms of bothe offense and defense. On the defensive side, Mitchell is undersized, but has length, and is a average to slightly above average defender. How defensive box plus minus for his career is decent. Reaves is a below average to poor defender. Some of my colleagues at arguing that Mitchell would be another Westbrook type acquisition, but I say at least he could shoot and defend. Also, his contract is low enough where we could also keep Dlo for 20-25m Per year and stay under the apron. With all that being said, Mitchell probably does end up signing with the Knicks. But he is a huge Kobe fan, for what it's worth.
     
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    I like Mitchell a lot, unlike Trae I think Mitchell can contribute to winning basketball.

    with that said, I doubt we even have the assets for him, he'd cost a whole lot more than Murray.
     
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    :Laugh:

    :ADnaughty:

    Was all that above you AGAIN trying to soften us up to the idea of trading AR who is a better "bang for the buck" player than Mitchell for the Lakers? Seriously AR has some multiples of skills extremely valuable to this roster with LeBron and AD and other good players. DLO ... OK for Mitchell but hate even the thought of losing Rui. He is a type of player we haven't had for a long time, with still more years of improvement in front of him. You just always go there so easily with Reaves.

    :Shaqfunnyface:
     
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    Just NO to the Trae idea!

    I could live with either Dame or Spider, but at what cost?
     
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    Trade Austin and Rui, in order to keep D'Angelo, and pay him 20-25M? Hell no to that proposal! We need playoffs performers, not post season shrinkers.
     
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    Austin is a fantastic contract and a terrific player. I would much rather keep Austin + Rui for 29 million, and the draft capital. But, like I said if the Lakers feel compelled to make a trade than it seems Mitchell is the player that fits best, out of the names I have seen thrown around so far.
     
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    Just trade D'Angelo for Myles Turner straight up. Indiana could flip D'Angelo to Orlando for someone they like on the Magic roster.
     
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