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  1. Pioneer10

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    Well if the Lakers had Spoelstra id trust him to get Vincent ready by probably sacrificing Max and Prince minutes

    Have to think Vincent will be helpful with certain matchups like the Kings, Knicks, etc basically the fast twitch PGs and you use Dinwiddie against the more physical less ultra quick guards.

    So I'm theory the combo could really solve some two way issues for the Lakers it gives you more of a two way threat vs SGs/smaller wings with Dinwiddie instead of Cam/Prince and Vincent taking the Fox types.

    Ham has shown that he can adjust in a playoff series but he may cost the Lakers a game or tow because his initial setups can be frankly dumb. Now does Ham have the by in from players such as DLo, Dinwiddie, and Vincent to let them know to be always ready you're time will come. Because if the team thinks he plays favorite a potential real strength could get destructive real quick
     
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    hated how we started the denver series.
     
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    I hated how we finished the Denver series too. Moving forward, the opportunity to move up is at hand.

    https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

    Sac will be without Monk and Huerter
    NO will be without Ingram
    Phx has the toughest remaining schedule in the NBA.

    We need to make our run here, and win our remaining games. 7-1 might slide us into 6th, if these other guys collapse. Then again Denver might end up 3rd, so I'm not sure that's what we really want. That last game against NO, could be the deciding factor.
     
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    Been reading about rumors Lakers will go after Trae Young in the offseason, and Imma go in the record as a Big No on that, but we shall see.

    Nothing against Trae; I just don't think he has what we need. If we had to get a Hawk player, Dejounte is much closer to what we need.

    I'm no seer or hoops expert, but I have had strong reactions that proved correct in the past. The moment I heard we got Westbrook I thought "now that seems like a huge mistake." As one example.

    No one's asking and I have no control over it, but man: I just don't want Trae here.

    I distinctly remember my reaction when Jerry West traded Vlade Divac to Charlotte in order to draft some kid out of HS. I didn't know who the kid was, but I trusted West's taste for talent both implicitly and explicitly at the time. I got lucky on that. We all did.

    When we got Kareem I thought we'd immediately go to the WCF at least, but I was wrong. We needed to draft a sophomore out of Michigan State, and when we go over how we got that 20-year-old 6'9" guard it still almost seems like a miracle. Hey: I'm not a huge college hoops fan, but I was riveted by that 1979 NCAA title game: Magic vs. Bird. Some kids just look ready for the NBA. One kid was meant to go to the Lakers; the other seemed equally destined to go to the C-Bags. And it was so. Trading for picks and a coin flip that went our way. Wow. I knew who Magic was; I didn't know who that HS kid was from Lower Merion.

    I thought drafting a senior out of Oregon State as our top pick in 1985 would be yet another loser in a long line of 'em. I was wrong. AC Green played 16 years and was a solid presence on the greatest NBA team that every played, the 1986-87 Lakers. I say this because the level of competition at the time. 65-17, swept DEN in first round; lost 1 game to GSW; swept SEA in the WCF, then beat the damned C-Bags 4-2 for the Finals. Magic: MVP for season and NBA Finals; Coop: DPotY. This team was ridiculously good, and in one of those books on the Lakers for that season - was it Lazenby's? - they went into camp that year after losing a wrenching WCF the previous year to HOU and Ralph Sampson's insane buzzer-beater, and the guys on this team knew they were the best team ever. And they proved it.

    Whew. Humor me a little. Got a little carried away there by memories of wars long past. Yea: NO on Trae. Am I wrong?
     
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    i'd say no to trae, too. i've argued he's better than some here suggest, but i don't want to go back to the three-star model unless we get a new ownership group that is willing to obliterate the tax like gs/lac.

    the only reason to go after trae would be a) he's probably the only all star level player that could move and b) it's planning for post-lebron years. even then, the price would probably be higher than i'm interested in paying.
     
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    Donavan Mitchell is who they should pursue with passion
     
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    I feel that Lakers should keep the intact, but I would strongly prefer Mitchell over Young. Reave's play of late is likely increasing his trade value, so there is that. Same with Rui. Would Cleveland accept a package of Reaves, Rui, JHS, and three first-round picks in exchange for Mitchell? Also, does anyone know if Christie could be included in a sign and trade?
     
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    The question is if you believe this team as currently constructed and healthy can win the championship? I don’t believe it can.If Cavaliers wouldn’t accept your proposal for Mitchell then you just move on.
     
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    i think in today's market you need the star to pick you AND the team to deem your package acceptable. i'd love to get mitchell, but with ny armed with all its picks (and some talent, too), we can't compete because mitchell wants to go there and not here. he's CAA (knicks). young is klutch (us). that's why all the talk, right?

    btw, i know people joke about us and klutch and the knicks and CAA, but we're just extreme versions of things that have been going on for many years. there have always been agencies that have good relationships (and bad relationships) with specific teams. just like gms who like to work with other gms.

    anyway, for these reasons, i don't think mitchell is realistic at all, but young is. one of these we should but can't, the other we probably can and probably shouldn't.
     
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    He may want to go to NY but does NY want/need him now? Before the OG trade I would have said absolutely but now it’s a little more complicated.Will OG opt out for more money?You are right NY has the picks but do they have a better offer than AR and Rui?
     
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    I can't see us trading for Mitchell or Young, and keeping D'Angelo. That doesn't make any sense.
     
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    For all of the reasons I’ve stated before, I don’t want Trae at all.
    We aren’t winning it all with this group, but there’s very few players I would want in return if we have to give up both Austin and Rui.
    Antman and Tatum are at the top of that short list.
     
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    He would be able to do what he does best,spot up and shoot.
     
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    Yeah BUT "keeping DLO" means Reaves going out plus likely Rui, picks and all sorts of valuable assets. Reaves on his contract, and even without that great contract is one hellova player in his own right who makes this team BETTER. And he has nowhere near peaked yet. As others have said just needs more muscle and strength up top as his base is really solid already. He has so many skills it would be stoooopid to let him go. Jeanie loves him, fan base loves him .... ain't happening.
     
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    Respectfully dude, you got to stop including AR in your trade fantasies. (admittedly for my benefit :D) jeezus look what you're throwing in there with him on top of it. But you've been including him in trades for far lesser players in the past than Donovan Mitchell.
     
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    I have no idea why you would trade AR for Young. massively favorable contract to cap tieing contract whose so bad on defense that I'm not even sure AD can compensate.

    For Mitchell that might be another story.
     
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    Well, I call that progress. Maybe we can trade AR for Luka or Jokic, just need to keep working on that deal!
     
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    It's amazing, isn't it. Quickley and Barrett rejoin to face us while their team is tanking

     
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    Gabe is listed as out vs. TOR: knee. Fer crissakes...Probably just soreness?

    Cam is listed as out vs. TOR for "personal reasons": what? He's not scoring or getting mins so he's sulking in his tent like Achilles? WTF, Reddish? Keep your head together, young fellah: we gonna need you. You can PLAY. Damn.

    Gotta take TOR to their 14th straight loss so either Bron or AD can take the BTB on the road Wiz game off? This is nerve-wracking stuff, man.

    NO cannot defend Booker: 3rd straight 50 point game against them.
     
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