2015 Free Agent Discussion

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by ShowTime_IR, Nov 3, 2014.

  1. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

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    The only mistake I could think of is the meeting with LMA where they focused their presentation too much on outside opportunities. But like I mentioned above, you can't sell a Corolla to a guy that's looking for a Porsche.

    Assuming the Pacers trade was discussed and agreed upon prior to July 1st, what mistakes are you talking about?
     
  2. LALakersFan4Life

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    If the Lakers can't get a wing defender like K.J. McDaniels and aren't re-signing Jeremy, how about signing somebody cheap like Andre Miller. The old man can still ball. Mitch did say there's too many young heads here and wants a veteran.
     
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  3. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

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    I wasn't referring to you, my man.
     
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    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Finally a good move. Why?

    1. Hibbert is huge, one of the biggest guys in the league, which is what we need.
    2. He plays defense, which leads me to
    3. He fits well with Randle
    4. This is his contract year. If he wants to stay with us, he needs to start balling. If not, we just don't offer him a contract. But I think he will play really well.
    5. He is young, will fit well, which is how you build a team

    Seriously, I was all for DJ, but no LMA, Wade and similar players. We need to build the team with young guys, and cheap vets who know how to play their role. OK, we still need a wing, just in case, but good job, Mitch.

    Let me be clear, the FO still embarased themselves this summer. They have to be better prepared, and for f's sake, start doing some analytics and modernize the way you approach the whole situation. Do some research about the players you want to interview. Otherwise, you just hurt our reputation.
     
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  5. tada

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    Andre turns 40 in March. Too old don't you think? :D
     
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    PHX begs to differ on that bias. They got through to LMA in a way that we didn't, with the same selling points.
     
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    I'll take a starting lineup of

    Russell
    Clarkson
    kobe
    Randle
    hibbert

    over

    lin
    clarkson
    wes
    boozer
    hill

    any day of infinity.....
     
  8. tada

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    Reports are reports Doc. Could be far from the truth. And besides, they had a clear advantage over us with a much better team.
     
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    Yes but the dude played 81 games last year shooting 50% 3 APG. Still a hell of a passer.
     
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    He could be an anomoly but it is a risky proposition.
     
  11. KareemtheGreat33

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    So those who are discontented with the FO. Does this mean you want Morey over Mitch? analytics over feel and smarts?
     
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    Seems that way. If Mitch was fired for Morey it would be a very sad day for me.
     
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  13. KareemtheGreat33

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    The end of the world as we know it...
     
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    Like the Hibbert move as a Plan B a lot... In many ways I like it better than the potential Monroe, Love, Koufos or Lopez ideas...
     
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    They only won 39 games. Post all-star break (basically after the Suns traded Dragic/Thomas), they were 10-18 while we were 8-21 so basically after they traded away Dragic/Thomas, they only won 2 more games than us. Meanwhile, we were devastated by injuries. We also have a much more promising and younger core.
     
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    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

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    I love what's happening to the Suns and Sarver (I don't wanna deal with the Lakers because of I'm a jealous prick). You could've gotten Pau for one of your multiple 1st round picks and you ensure play offs for that year and probably in contention for years. Hilarious
     
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    Mitch's job should be secure for a long time. Maybe he can just hire an assistant GM that's really good at recruiting... or maybe sign some Chandler Parsons type dude.
     
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    I ain't mad at Mitch. Let's just say for the record that Mitch kinda sucks at getting free agents but is great at getting trade deals done. Everybody agree?
     
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    Guys seriously I don't see any reason for your derision here. Doc, and rev, and MOST of us who are disconcerted with the FO are upset have made our points. If you choose not to believe the obvious and what's right in front of you, that's not on us to make you believe that. Believe whatever you want. The rest of us disagree.

    For the last time on this issue: most of us DON'T CARE about whether or not we landed Aldridge or Jordan. Any rational fan would know getting them would be an incredible long shot.

    We are upset with the way we were dragged through the mud and embarrassed as a franchise. We are upset about the way Aldridge revealed that our FO is completely incompetent when it comes to relating to players. We are upset that we apparently are content to keep punting off-seasons and taking the players other teams want to dump while said teams actually land those players.

    If they had gotten Hibbert at the beginning of FA and their ineptitude was kept in the shadows even longer, I'd be fine. I like HIbbert. I was one of the first to defend the move. It's not about the players, it's about the FO's inability to sell their product to FAs. If they know they're not getting them, don't waste their time. Move in a timely matter and maybe you can get younger players that we can build around instead of constantly punting off-seasons and trying to make up for it in the draft.

    If you want to skate over all those problems as "misreporting" that's fine, but I've had enough of being told we're overreacting and being overtly mocked. Mitch, Jim, and Jeanie need to change and they need to change now. They need to modernize their approach. If you don't see that and don't agree, then I don't know what to tell you. I hope you're happy settling on Hibberts for another summer or two before our draft picks catch up to the talent necessary to attract FAs.

    Please, let's move on before we get too contentious.
     
  20. thkthebest

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    Why do people feel the need to constantly bring up Morey when it comes to analytics? Spurs, Mavs, and Suns are teams that also rely heavily analytics. They were the ones that impressed Aldridge and DJ.
     

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