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Clippers will own us ! Lol!!

 

We’re going to get wrecked even more tomorrow. Wonder if harden will be cleared to play by then?

let’s face it. We haven’t beaten the clippers since the 4 stars came to LA what was it, 2018 or so?

we’ll pretty much never beat them now.

I’m def in the minority here. I think it’s easily 2 of 3- suns clips nuggs WCF

Then bucks C Bags ECF

this move absolutely puts the clippers over the top as if they needed even more….

Oh well. I’m hopeful there’s a Haliburton, shai, edwards type of player avail via any means once LBJ era is over. I’d really love to see a star wing take over this franchise (in their prime).

 

History has proven, notably since the beginning of the 3 stars era, that you just don't put a bunch of great individuals together and that works out.
There's only one ball and there's a reason why the 2 stars model has worked better, because you get a better combination of what you need to succeed. And that's not just scoring, but also defense, rebounding, spacing and the little things.

Look at Denver, they have 3 scoring machines but it works out because Gordon and KCP do everything else the others don't. They are the perfect combination with their other 3 guys. If you switch Gordon for KAT for example, that individually is a much better player, that doesn't work as well.
If you look at Milwaukee, you had Holiday giving the perimeter defense, Pat giving spacing, Lopez giving interior defense and spacing with Giannis. You switch Lopez for Shaq and I don't think that team wins.
Only 3 star model that worked was Miami where Bosh stopped being an all-star (and they were loaded with all-time shooters) and GS because Durant fit that team was perfect. They have a great system and KD and Green gave them great interior defense + the gravity KD creates opened up the best combo shooters of the history.

Basketball is a team game, it's a combination of different skills that makes you win it all. Every single team that won it was a combination of different skills. I thought after the INSTANT impact we had last year when we traded Russ for pieces that FIT this team would have shown clearly what works in the NBA. Media was freaking out when we got Russ and downplayed when we traded him for pieces, that should show not to follow media frenzy. It's great in NBA2k though
Also, if you played basketball (or any sports) you also know that you get going with touches and you don't have a switch that turns on/off to get going. Having Russ and Harden hogging the ball as they do, should impact Kawhi and PG ability to get into the zone.
Harden on the Clippers is a weird fit with Russ. They both need the ball to be successful so they cancel each other. Harden can be an off-ball shooter at times but that's not his best version. Defensively they will struggle too. I agree with abeer that they can protect them by putting them on bigger guys, but team defense will still be a problem, they have no defensive awareness.
I imagine Powell and Tucker will be in the closing lineups with Kawhi, Harden and PG. That's a small-ball big team and can create some problems but I think you can make a ton of schemes to take advantage of it.
I'm sure they'll have some games where they blow teams away just due to talent, especially in regular season, but fit and availability won't break it for them when it matters. We've seen this a lot of times with Nets, Clippers, Suns putting together star-studded teams that everyone freaks out about and time and time again it just gets proven it doesn't work. This will be another example.

I think the best benefit for this team is in regular season where they are better suited to cope with injuries. And I'm fine with that. They still won't win 3 series in a tough West and they will suck for a decade like abeer pointed out. Happy days

 

It is absolutey NOT a stupid move by the clippers, as they didn't give much. It isn't one that's going to pay off, but they certainly didn't overpay.

 

Only the delusional think this is a bad trade for clippers. Like they really needed Morris Batum n Roco.... they got back j harden AND pj...F*** THEM PICKS

 

How do the Clippers always get everything despite seemingly having nothing to offer? It's like they just waltz in and get everything for a bargain. I'm not a huge James Harden fan but this team is better than the Suns, assuming they stay healthy.

 

any gm would do that junk sixers call a pkg from clipps....morris was a big negative n batum/covington are washed

 

by way wouldn't mind signing green back (got waived)...he cant be any worse than Cam with those corner 3s

 

Yeah, Reddish is terrible but I'd rather they just play Max at this point. Reddish is incredibly disappointing. He's super young but it just seems like he has never actually developed his game after high school. Still can't shoot, plays zero defense, doesn't hustle, and has some flashes of good scoring capabilities but it seems lucky rather than it being part of his actual game. I don't think he's going to get another chance playing for an NBA team after this stint if he doesn't step it up. He was terrible in college so I have no idea how he became a lottery pick.

 

The Clippers stars haven't been able to last even half a postseason even mildly healthy.

Harden is not going to change that, their problem was never lacking the talent to begin with.

 

LMFAO
LaVar Ball: 'I want my sons to play for the Clippers'


The legendary LaVar Ball named the team in which he would like to see his three sons - Lonzo, LiAngelo and LaMelo .

“I want them all to play for the Clippers.” I don't want to go back to the Lakers because of what they did to Lonzo, so let's move on to another option. Let's move on to Steve Ballmer , he's his dude. I like him.

He will soon have a new arena. Clippers, trade Melo. “I hear criticism of Lonzo, let him then leave Chicago and sign a contract with the Clippers,” says the famous showman.

 

Odd statement, solely referring to his first minutes these games that Ham’s given him ….. considering it’s the one thing most of us have acknowledged he’s doing decently. Playing hard on POA with the long arms, quick feet and fighting through screens. Awareness off the ball not so great though.

 

I'm talking about his entire NBA career. He's never played defense or hustled. The guy is 6'8 and per36, averages 4 rebounds per game. A four game sample size where he is playing moderately good defense by his own standards doesn't change that. Are we going to ignore his atrocious offense as well, then?

 

Got it. No, I said POA the “one” thing.

 

Ironically, if Philly doesn't trade make a trade during the season I could see them being players for PG or Kawhi next free agency with all the cap they've cleared. Seems like they may want a younger third piece to go with Embiid/Maxey though.

 

Don’t get me wrong, on paper it’s a great value trade for the Clippers.

And I agree that the pieces they gave up aren’t very good anymore (my point was that for whatever reason they still kill us whenever we play the Clips)

But yeah, super risky move for the Clippers giving Harden’s history of drama/flakiness and putting all their chips on the table for an injury riddled core of older stars. I think the picks/swaps they’re giving up are going to look much more costly in a few years than they look now.

 

I just think this is going to work out about the same it has for every other team that has brought in Harden. The fit is questionable but I suppose given the injury problems with most of that team, who knows how much their 4 will actually end up playing together.