2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Russ and two seconds for Hield. Indy can absorb Russ's contract and this saves the Lakers from being in the tax.

Dennis/Pat
Hield/Reaves/Walker
Rui/Brown/Christie
Lebron/Gabriel/JTA
AD/Bryant/Jones

Possibly work on a seperate package for Bev/Walker

 

maybe the Turner/Hield deal can be revived if the Pacers continue to suck. They are 2 - 8 in the last 10.

 

Lot of smoke with Toronto. FVF signing with Klutch. If he does that is three of them on the roster OG, Trent, and FVF

 

I wouldn't do the 2 picks for that deal

both players can walk at the end of the season for nothing, and we probably don't have the money to resign them both even if we wanted. I read that Vanvleet is looking at around 120/4, plus he's a tiny guard, and not a particularly good playmaker either. Would be a bad deal to resign him in the first place.

give us Anunoby instead of GTJ and now we're talking.

 

With Fred Van Vleet hiring Klutch, I do agree that suddenly FVV will be a real option for the Lakers this summer.

FVV is essentially 29 year old Kyle Lowry. Their games are the same - Tough point guard defenders that are great shot makers from 3, and are league average at playmaking.

To me, this type of point guard is actually what you want. It’s the ideal fit next to AD/Lebron and it’ll still be ideal if Lebron retires or leaves in 2 years because you don’t need a point guard that constantly demands the ball and playmake to be effective. I know this because we already have that in Westbrook. Lebron is the athletic version of Luka Doncic. Why would we want him to not have the ball and instead get set up by a point guard? The team is better off having the ball in Lebron’s hands for 35-38 minutes a game to create for others, while also knowing when he has the opportunities to attack for himself.

That’s why FVV would fit really well, he provides elite perimeter defence and will always be respected offensively as a 3 point threat, thus creating the spacing for Lebron and AD to operate effectively. As mentioned, by FVV being league average as a playmaker is all you need anyway. Just run the offense smoothly 30% of the time when Lebron is sitting or is off ball during game situations and not make dumb mistakes. FVV can absolutely do that.

How FVV is a good fit post Lebron too is that he’s not supposed to be your 1st or 2nd best player, but he can be the 3rd best player on a Championship team if you can get another wing all star to partner up with AD in the future. FVV’s skill set should be able to translate to compliment future roster changes and even coaching changes. He’s not the kind of player you ever need to worry about “fit” with like you would most all star point guards, and I see that as a viable way to build a championship team.

I also 100% agree with VincePT’s post that although that sounds great, no way the Lakers should do this trade if it costs both FRPs, for the very reason stated - no point in paying when you can just get it without giving anything up by waiting until free agency.

Lastly, that’s why I’m also on VincePT’s side here that yeah… we can live with giving up the 2 picks if there was some way we can get OG too. OG doesn’t have the same leverage because he won’t be a free agency, and he’s basically the best 3 and D option available out there.

Damn… I get excited at the thought of a Westbrook+2 FRP for OG/FVV trade on paper:


FVV/Schroder/Beverly
OG/Walker/Reaves/Christie
Lebron/Brown/JTA
AD/Hachimura/Gabriel
Bryant/Jones

it looks like a team that would really fit Coach Ham’s mold, and I think they would have a legit shot at winning a championship if we could even go into next season with the same group somehow. Another minor trade would likely be needed for a big man, something like JTA, the trade exception from the theoretical FVV/OG for Westbrook trade, and future 2nds for either Miles Plumlee or Mo Bamba.

Pull off those deals and we are right back in it…

 

Yeah Toronto is never trading FVV and OG for 2 picks

 

Stein's latest


Prices are still high. Bulls want two firsts for AC

Drummond available

Only three untouchables in Utah

Magic taking calls

Details on the three team deal with the Bucks-Wizards-Suns involving Rui that fell apart.

Left out the Toronto stuff. That's all in Weezy's post above

 

agree that OG/fvv would be great. also agree it's out of our price range.

also, i'm not sure it makes sense to trade russ for both fvv and trent when you can move bev/walker/jones for either.

in those smaller deals, i think a protected 1st in 2027 is probably a fair price to pay. but not an unprotected 1st. if you want christie, you get no picks on top of it.

 

why is caruso even available? he's one of the league's best defenders locked into a contract below his market value for what will be the duration of his prime. he's basically untradeable unless part of a package for a star, imo.

lol. i still spit when i hear his name.

bamba/ross interested me earlier in the year, but less so now.

this part was interesting and why i like stein more than most nba reporters. interesting that phx is supposedly asking for good young players and/or picks for crowder and wanted rui. but we got him.

 

OG/FVV would be done already if it were possible.

Not sure how attractive Beverly or Walker really are to other teams.

 

i think they're generally not. they're expiring salary. if walker had some bird rights, he might interest an over the cap team. but he doesn't.

i think bev could interest a lower-tier playoff team. we know minny would like him back. i think thibodeau would take him for sure.

but yeah, the teams we probably want to deal with would only be interested in either a) moving off salary or b) collecting some draft capital.

there are certainly some three-team possibilities, but i don't have time to dream these up.

 

Russ/Jones/2027 1st (unprotected)/ 2029 1st (unprotected) for Van Vliet/Trent/Hernangomez/2027 2nd/2029 2nd is doable if their deals are not too high. FVV starting at 30 and Trent starting at 27 would be fine. Payroll would be upwards of 184 million, and we would likely loose Bryant, but that's okay. Lakers get 9 million of cap relief for this season with the trade, which amounts to 22.5 million due to the repeater tax? That money could be used for next years' payroll and makes it more palatable to trade the picks.

 

I don't think he is available UNLESS it's a package that knocks them over. Like two first rounders, teams just don't give up those kind of draft assets for an AC. But Bulls are also in a bad spot after severely losing the Vuc trade (and now are almost forced to re-up him this summer due to what they spent to get him), so if they can find a way to recoup picks I think they're forced to look at it.

I don't know why Deandre or Drummond are on NBA rosters. They either have really good agents or a private investigator on their payroll to dig up dirt on execs.

Yeah, I really liked that one before Rui and before TB showed out. If nothing else presents itself, I'd flip Bev and a 2nd for Ross because it keeps Ham from the 3 dwarfs lineup with better size.

 

Do not want FVV. Under 6’0 guards seem to have a short shelf life, pardon the pun.

 

C'mon, nobody is paying 2 firsts for Alex. It's not because some reporter who needs to write something's posts it online that makes it true

 

Caruso is definitely not worth two firsts.

It was incredibly foolish however, to let him go for free.

 

yeah, always important to read between the lines. chicago's not interested in trading him at all. so when someone called up saying "how about my non-rotation player for caruso?", chicago said, sure, two future unprotected 1sts, and both guys laughed.