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  1. abeer3

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    well, tbh, he hasn't even gotten THAT much burn this year. it's just that in that limited time plus practice, he went from presumptive starter (wasn't that the case at the start of training camp?) to "never, under any circumstances, play this man".

    obviously, no one's going to speak on it until he's gone, but i'm very curious as to what he's done that warrants being absolutely nailed to the pine.
     
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    The interesting thing about Collins is that his shot improvement was largely credited to Chris Jent. I could see a reunion working well for him.
     
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    Why in the world did we give Jones a 2 year deal instead of Bryant? We already knew that he is a traditional banger type of 5. I thought it was curious that Darvin was talking about Jones being capable of hitting the outside shot this summer. When has he ever shown this ability? He's nailed to the bench because 1. He doesn't have the lateral quickness and agility of Wenyen. 2. He doesn't have the scoring ability of Thomas. Yet we had this kid before and we already knew these things. So we go out and give him a two year deal? Headscratcher...
     
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    Sure makes you wonder why Rob gave him a 2 year deal. He'd been in the league 6 years, it's not like we didn't know what we were getting. we bounced him after only 8 games in the '21 season. I mean, I understand why we gave Max Christy 2 years, you take a gamble on young talent. But not on a known commodity when our '23 cap space is so precious. He's a 5pt/3reb guy 14 minutes a game if you got the garbage time laying around.
     
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    I agree. That did not make any sense. I was surprised when I saw Jones start the first game. Him being in there with the starting unit contributed to the Lakers lack of spacing, and I think it is a significant reason why we started so horribly. Maybe there is some sort of political reason why he was starting, like with Walker? The Lakers have made some terrible decisions in terms of their big men. The Zubac trade, letting Thomas Bryant walk, letting JeVale walk, and now not giving Huff a chance.
     
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    hold on now...nobody was complaining about the jones signing at the time. he had a decent year--his best as a pro--in sac and was on a vet min. if anything, it was maybe a relief to know that if he played well, we wasn't bolting like all of our other 1-year vet mins.

    i'm guessing jones wanted two years, and we gave it to him just to get it done with. and it's a vet min, so not a big deal.

    i'm guessing bryant DIDN'T want two years, precisely because he a) has already made some money and b) thought he could rehab his image here and do it again. note that bryant didn't even get a PO on his, suggesting that we weren't just rolling over in negotations.
     
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    He doesn't fit the Milwaukee offense though. He doesn't fit the 4 out concept either. Both want the big to at least be a 3 point threat from the top of the key or wing. I thought that he'd be useful with AD at 4 for a stretch or two in games. The other two guys have just played better when given the opportunity.
     
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    I didn't care for the move. I was trying to be open minded about it though. I was hoping we would accumulate as many shooters as possible. I was like one rim-running big for the vet-minimum wouldn't hurt us. I figured he would in a sense operate as AD's backup (as the inside player in Ham's offense). But, when I saw him in the starting line up with Lebron/AD/Westbrook (who need lanes open to operate) and Walker (mediocre three-point shooter at best), I was disappointed. That starting line up did not make any sense from a 4 out/ 1 in stand point. It is quite obvious that the front office tells Ham who should be in the starting line-up.
     
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    honestly, out of all of our players, maybe only austin reaves fits the 4-out theory cleanly.

    right. as pretty much everyone was.

    truth is gabriel has just outplayed him. pretty much nobody expected that, either.
     
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    Gabriel earned the spot for sure. Jones should not have been starting though. That made absolutely no sense.
     
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    word was he won the spot in camp, right? anyway, that ended very quickly.
     
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    Not sure why he was starting. That starting line-up had zero above-average three-point shooters, unless you want Lebron to be your best shooter.
     
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    I recall the overwhelming majority of fans being excited about the Jones signing. And he literally started only one game, not sure why that’s worth complaining about.
     
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    I still don’t understand how Mac can’t get run on a team in the league.
     
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    Well .... good for him. Have some fun. Spud Webb says Hello.

    :Kobe Shrug:
     
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    For a deep bench spark plug as needed .... agree.
     
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    Another small guard? Folks would flip out around here.
     
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    He's just bad. I had high hopes on him too, but after seeing him closely: no lateral quickness, bad hands, terrible IQ. He fooled me
    I think they thought he was the best possible version of Howard/McGee, with whom we maximized AD's play. But he is not.

    In any case, his contract doesn't hurt us.
     
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    No..the 4 out is also supposed to be effective with guys that can attack off the dribble too. We have a few of those , I think that's why our offense is better than people expected, even without AD.
     
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