2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

LOL …. Why? Still expecting Russ to ball out this year WITHOUT all the rest of his loser plays that nullify most all of the balling out? You know …. all the stuff you refuse to acknowledge?

 

Any Hayward deal needs to come with us receiving a FRP because he is 100% damaged goods and financial rescue relief for Charlotte. Huge risk to the Lakers. Hornets have plenty of picks to play with anyways, only picks they are missing are their 2025 2nd rounders, we could throw in one '25 2nd rounder to sightly offset the loss of a FRP. Or just a FRP straight up, no picks from us. This speeds up CLT rebuild quite a bit worthy of a first, massive clearance of cap space for them to work with.

 

i'm mad because there's enough to be annoyed about without making stuff up. what irwin posted was a guy literally making stuff up, projecting his own ideas about the situation as reality. if you, or irwin, or skolnick wants to say what they think, that's fine. it's when it moves into "and we know this" when we absolutely do not and cannot that i get annoyed.

if you and anthony are trolling me, you're doing a great job. i only respond because i feel like you know better than to buy this stuff or to make the level of assumption that you're making. holding back picks on s*** deals isn't "giving up on trying to win with lebron". it could just as easily be saving him from himself, tbh. it could just as easily be a lesson learned from getting strongarmed into the russ deal that effectively killed two years of lebron.

and these "rumblings" about picks not being able to be used could just as easily spun positively: the gms that tried to rook us for the past year are calling and asking for one instead of both picks, and we're telling them to f*** off. i'd love it, tbh. pull the ol' car salesman on 'em. "my boss says i can't move any picks. you want to find a different deal. oh, you're offering more if i'll give up a pick. i'll go talk to the manager in that case..."

but no, all interpretations must be negative because we're mad.

i don't think mj, of all people, takes a moral stance. my guess is he ends up going back there on the QO and proving he's a solid citizen, then entering unrestricted FA (again, need to look at the rules, as it's an unusual situation).

two things--charlotte's a crap FA destination. nobody wants to play there, and they're still digging out from their last major commitments (batum, hayward), so i'm not sure they want to have a ton of money to spend. they've got 40+ million to spend in FA next year even if they keep hayward and rozier! so salary relief alone probably isn't as interesting to them as it could be to other teams. the other thing is that instead of a first, they're having to send some level of talent alongside hayward in any russ deal, so from their perspective, that evens it, right?

anyway, again, we'll probably get some details a couple weeks after the deadline, when details of discussions generally leak out as forms of damage control.

 

Meh..another exaggeration, but yep.

 

stop complaining about Ham you’ll see some improvement soon

 

My take away from all of this is that y'all need to quit blaming each other for the teams failures this year. We all have ideas and the truth is, most of us are wrong, at least to some degree. I could actually care less, I mean, I care a little but this is ONLY sports and there are way more serious things to really get ticked off over. Bottom line is the team made a bad choice and everyone had their hand in it and now they have to find a way out, all while everyone else is kicking while they can. Nobody is going to help us at this point and we are clearly not going to do something stupid again, with our back against the wall. It is going to be too late for this year, so hopefully we are going to solve it by next year and if they pull the same delay tactic stunts we can all take up womens volleyball!!

 

Why would nobody want to play in Charlotte? It is a pretty cool part of the country IMHO. I've been there and all around the region extensively. If it wasn't for their liberal politics, I could live near there with ease.

 

tonight's game reiterated if we:
1 - trade Russ for a couple of pieces Rozier + PJ is okay if no one else
2 - get everyone healthy

we still have a puncher's chance at the title, especially with the West wide open as it is this year.

 

when was the last time they won without lebron and AD?

i'm guessing 2021?

 

There are always 2nd and 3rd tier players happy to get a 1st tier (or close to 1st tier) paycheck which is how they got Gordon Hayward, who would have worked out alright had he returned to health but we all know what happened). So it isn't a matter of them landing a Trea Young or a Ja Morant those guys can probably get the paper and the city they want. MJ has to settle for 2nd and 3rd tier, if he can get 2 of those and they click and the team is good and has chemistry sky's the limit. He most definitely needs the cap space. It's also why Westbrook is a good piece for them. One of the few places he probably can get paid still.

 

Austin triple double against Denver

 

yeah, i actually live near there (would NOT refer to this part of the country as "liberal") and it's pretty nice, actually. i'm just saying nba players haven't shown any special affinity towards the area.

i hope he thinks like you do, but i'm just saying really only a handful of teams can make serious, impactful use of 70 million in cap space. teams like charlotte are more likely to mozdeng than hit a home run. i mean, mitch is their current gm. he's probably having nightmares about having a ton of cap space again!

 

oh thank God, I might have prematurely announced his death last gameday

 

That was a truly scary moment and I’m really glad he is responding well to treatment.

 

35 million and we gotta re-sign Reaves, Thomas Bryant, possibly Walker etc.

We won't have any money for good free-agents so trading our glut of guards is the only way to enhance talent.

 

The thing is, if we do trade our expiring guards for talent on long-term contracts, that likely takes us out of the running to re-sign Walker, Bryant, Brown, etc.

So while I agree that trade is the better route than cap space, we better be sure we’re getting back players that we actually believe we can start building around long term. Not just making a trade for the sake of making a trade.

For example (I’m not necessarily doing the math) are Fournier and Reddish worth eliminating our cap space (and thereby not being able to re-sign most of our current players either)? If they end up not being good enough to be stable parts of our rotation as is the case for them in NY right now, well then we’re again left to fill the rest of the rotation with a new group of veteran’s minimum players.

It would be a tough pill to swallow, but I’d actually rather stand pat and run it back using all our cap space re-signing our current players to team-friendly (and more importantly, tradeable) deals, than blow our cap space by trading for 1-2 mediocre players

I would like to think there is a good deal out there that DOES bring back multiple players that we trust can be core pieces in our rotation next year, but some of the ideas that have been floated don’t meet that threshold for me.

 

I can see MJ interested in overpaying a slew of the free agent class of '23, Westbrook, D'Angelo Russell, Porzingas, Draymond Green, Myles Turner, Christian Wood, Kyle Kuzma, Harrison Barnes, I mean, there are a ton of names of players ripe for overpayment to suckers like Charlotte next summer. If we could get Rozier and Hayward outta him MJ will have like 100 million I can see him throwing out 30 mil per deals to guys. He'd probably resign Russ for 2 years 20-25 per, he'd love him as 6th man coming off the bench for LeMelo. + MJ does have LeMelo on an attractive contract which might attract players. It may not be a big FA destination but when you are overpaying 5-10 million per it goes a long way towards bringing players.

 

Honestly, I always hear people who live in different areas of NC say that but then I look at the stats and they are overwhelmingly listed as Democrats along with that they have pretty high taxes.

https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/north_carolina/charlotte

 

The Carolinas are not even remotely close to being liberal lol, with the few exceptions of some cities like Asheville, Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham, Columbia and Charleston.

 

Trade season kicking off with a blockbuster!



Dieng didn’t seem to be part of the rotation for SAS, I’m guessing just because they are trying to go young.

Let’s bring him in on a 10 day?