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That is also when LaVine could be traded. I like the Rozier/Washington option better though.

 

Thanks. Do these different dates have something to do with when they signed their latest contracts or something else?

 

Beal cannot be traded until Jan 15 because he re-signed using Bird rights with a 20% raise in salary.

 

it's all about the nature of the contract and its timing. lebron can't be traded at all this year due to a combination of those factors, for example. i definitely haven't memorized this information, though, so i wouldn't be able to know which ones are available when.

to me, the bigger deal is that nobody--save for a handful of teams that unfortunately seems to perennially include us--has a ton of urgency to make deals until they're under the gun of the deadline. generally, the deals made at this point of the season are clear talent-for-talent type situations that fill needs for the teams involved. the deadline and summer deals are for the lopsided talent deals that would interest us.

note that nobody else is trading right now. like literally nobody.

 

Here's the Jan 15th'ers

 

Bags packed?

 

If people stopped wanting to know about famous people’s lives outside their profession, less likely of an issue.

 

I'd be all over Toronto for Siakam and either Van fleet or OG personally but I've been clamoring for him ont he Lakers for years so who knows

 

I mean, Van Vleet and OG would be ideal. Due to their age, the Lakers should have no problem with parting with the two picks, perhaps unprotected.

 

Van Vleet/OG/2027 1st/2029 1st/2023 2nd

or

Rozier/Washngton/2027 protected 1st/2023 2nd

Which trade is better?

 

I'd do Rozier + Hayward and no first-rounders.

Hayward is a risk, but he'd fit well here if healthy.

 

is there any word toronto wants to move on from these guys, though? last i read anunoby's price tag was super high, and siakam's having maybe his best year as a pro. fvv's having a slightly down year, but it's not like they've got another pg waiting in the wings or something.

still think toronto makes a play for myles turner using anunoby.

 

It puzzles me why everyone wants to make a trade that doesn't solve either of our main issues....and therefore NOT making us a contender, the only reason we should even contemplate making a trade.

1) Shooting, specifically from distance
2) Length with our perimeter defense

It isn't rocket science to realize that this is what ANY successful team needs when playing with AD and LBJ, and yet everyone keeps wanting to add small guard or "meh" players who can't shoot from distance. Worse, they want another "big 3" who is not good at either.

It also isn't smart to trade for players who can't stay on the floor either when we have a 38-year old and one of our own (AD) who has trouble doing so.

I have no idea what happened to Beal's shooting, but it has been on a steady decline. His first six seasons in the league he was near a 40% shooter from deep and yet his last 5 has seen that drop to under 35%. He has missed 1/3 of his games over that time as well. 6 foot 4 does little to nothing giving us length out there either. His stock is dropping (mainly due to his constant injuries) and he is signed for the absolute max the next 4 seasons. And we want to take this on?? Um, no

Rozier, an absolute midget at 6 foot 1, is signed for the next 3 seasons as well (roughly 25 million per) and his shooting has plummeted this season (career-low 31%). He looks slower afoot and Hayward has been even worse (career-low 30%) from distance this season, and we all know his injury history AND he is signed for another season at 32 million.

Westbrook- as bad as he is and how we desperately need to move him- is a better asset than these guys.....

We can (and need to) do better....

 

Damn I thought Rozier was like 6'4" not another dwarf.

 

not sure if the rumors of the interest in beal is legit but if it is Rob/Jeannie hasnt learn s***

 

Yeah he is 6-1. But he has a 6-8 wing span, so he plays bigger. We also might be sending out multiple small players in a trade to get him too, so it's not like we are just stock piling small players. In regards to his poor shooting year from three, one it is likely just an outlier due to him being the focal point for the majority of the season, and two we buy low instead of buy high. Also, I wouldn't expect the Lakers to put him in the back court with Dennis. Rozier would be a replacement for Dennis, with Dennis returning to the bench where he belongs. We have Walker at the two, who is 6-4 and also plays bigger.

 

So we have the 2 still elite stars now in advance of what you say and is probably true. Rings are won with at least 2 stars. Maybe for better or worse they are hoping to have another elite impact player shake loose to keep alongside AD when Bron’s done. Odds certainly against another ring once he’s gone (maybe AD too after Laker fans run him out of town) and no chance in hell we get as lucky with the high draft picks as we did last decade and that didn’t even get us to the playoffs.

Yeah not ideal either way. We’re in a tough spot no doubt with the trade decisions. Got to move these guys that are expiring!!! Ideally for depth and quality pieces that fit next to the two of them while they’re here. Blowing it up prematurely isn’t the answer though IMO.

 

I repeat we can do better than a Rozier/Heyward trade and I doubt the Lakers are going to make a move for a tiny guard who has 3 more years on his contract AND taking on the extra year of oft-injured and slow-footed Hayward too (adding some $100 million in dollars).

These two ARE NOT making you contenders this season and would absolutely strap us with the cap for the next two seasons.

Pass

 

Rozier's contract is actually pretty reasonable. He is owed 21 this year, 23 next year, 25 and 26 the following two years. I mean when you compare that to a max contract like Beal or LaVine, the contract is not that bad. Beal and LaVine are making 37 million this year as an example. In a sense, you can pay Rozier and another 15 million dollar player, and equal the one max contract. Those medium sized deals are also important in terms of tradable contracts. You also have to factor in the cap going up substantially the next few year. Rozier is 28-years old, is consistent, and is durable.

 

i also wonder if we could get something positive back from charlotte if we took hayward AND rozier. like a couple 1sts our way or some such.