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  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    He also broke the record for the quickest three ever recently. It took three seconds from tipoff to ball in the basket.
     
    karacha, Dec 30, 2022
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    I have spoken with many Laker fans who didn’t want Kuz traded, nor Vogel fired.
    I wouldn’t have minded if Kuz were traded for a player who was actually good, and preferably another wing.
    As for Frank, we all know he paid the price for Rob’s and LeGM’s poor roster construction.
     
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    There was one deal Woj reported that was Kuzma/Harrell for Hield with no pick. That was the deal to make.

    Even if they did include a pic it's still way better than the Russ deal. Defensive rating is a bit flawed as it depends a lot on the team in general. Hield is not a good defender that is true, but his defensive rating for his career is 115. Austin Reaves is a pretty solid defender but his defensive ratings is 117 for his career and 118 this year. That's the same mark that Hield's 5th worst ever mark is. (It's not the 5th worst ever anymore, 8 players already have worse ratings so far this year).
     
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    yeah, i didn't love rob's deal, but i understood it. he got overruled, and here we are. blaming him in podcasts.
     
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    If you had a Time Machine, do you make the trade given the years they’re having?
     
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    even Rob would.
     
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    Lebron is very clearly the problem.

    :LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    If Lebron is truly going to be Tom Brady of the NBA. The Lakers need to get him players this summer to win next year. No other way to look at this.
     
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    The fact that some around here don’t agree we need more around him is so hilarious.
     
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    “I can still be a major factor on the right team. Don’t believe me? Watch this!”

    I have to say he makes bold claims here and there, but he usually delivers.
     
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    He's a bad @$%. He brought back our franchise. He brought AD. He got us a ring. He put up 7 straight games of 30 plus points at 37 years old with AD out. He makes us competitive just by being here and playing. Rob and the Front Office need to get off their butts and get him some real players instead of worthless ones like Pat Beverly and Nunn.

    It's a complete and utter embarrassment and disgrace that Pat Beverly starts for our team. He is absolutely the worst starting player I have ever seen in 40 plus years of watching the NBA. That's not an exaggeration. Peep the stats. 4 points a game. Under 30% shooting overall, under 25% from three. It's a freaking disgrace. Get this guy some help. Spend one of the picks if you have to. You don't need to send them both out but one is worth it if we can get a really good complementary player on a decent contract, preferably a shooter IMO. One of the Bogdanovics would do nicely.
     
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    I’m with you on the pro-Lebron sentiment (which is increasingly rare on this forum)

    And yes we need to flip Beverley to get some real help.

    But those aren’t Beverley’s stats. He’s actually quietly been playing much better lately. He’s up to 6 ppg on 38% from the field and 32% from three.

    Which still looks terrible, but over the course of the last month he’s been at 8 points, 3 assists, 1 steal on 48% from the field and 40% from 3.

    That’s really not bad. He’s still a plus defender (when not asked to guard the opposing team’s best wings). Those are the kind of numbers that I could tolerate from Bev and see him as a valuable roleplayer. IF we already had a better roster.

    Like if hypothetically we made the Indiana trade and had Hield/Turner (or some other Westbrook trade) to fix a lot of the other problems on the team, the way Beverley’s been playing lately would be perfectly adequate as a back-up guard.

    But in the absence of such a trade, our roster right now just isn’t dependable enough and we need so much more production from our fourth highest paid player. That’s why Beverley’s flaws are so loud and why we need to trade him. Beverley plus a pick may be the best, most cost-effective way of getting some help.
     
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    Fair enough, and I agree that Bev might have worked with Hield/Turner as a defensive minded player to cover for Hield. But yeah, 6 points a game is disgusting for a starting guard and that's fine that he's improved somewhat on his shooting, but he's still the last guy I want taking shots and for $13 million we deserve a whole lot better than him. Put him together with Nunn who is useless too and you've got $20 million expiring. At some point coming up that HAS to be worth something with the Victor tankathon and some veteran players that don't really fit the plans of tanking teams aiming at youth movements. I just hope it's soon for our sake!!!
     
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    This. This is the energy we need.
     
    LA Bron, Dec 30, 2022
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    The weirdest part about the Lebron Lakers era is how Lakers fan do not embrace him. At all.
     
    LA Bron, Dec 30, 2022
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    It was hard for me to fathom embracing a guy like Lebron who I couldn't stand, but as soon as I had an inkling that he wanted to be a Laker I was with it. I think he really gets what it means to be a Laker and the territory that comes with it. I hope the Front Office will start to do the same because they have dropped the ball in a big way, which is frankly absurd. I just don't trust that they will do the right thing and give us the best possible product on the floor the way the good Doctor did. I'm not clear if it's Jeanie penny pinching, the Rambii putting their noses into things and making bad decisions, or Rob not having a clue. But we had a championship level squad and we've done nothing but get worse since then, which is very hard to see.
     
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    If AD is healthy and Lebron keeps looking like this, Charlotte is the team to look at. Rozier, Hayward, Oubre, Washington... Lakers have the expirings to match. Rob just has to negotiate the picks.
     
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    He thinks he is bigger than the franchise. And that's bad

    He is an amazing athlete and player. He's bad in everything else
     
    pika1708, Dec 30, 2022
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    I'll have to disagree with you. Bad in everything else? Like what? Is he an egotist? Yeah. But I won't harp on him completely for that - most great players have huge egos. Michael Jordan has an even bigger ego, IMO. Wilt had a huge ego. Jeez, Kobe had a huge ego. Did you miss the part when he said he wanted to play anywhere else other than the Lakers, even on the moon? I believe he meant it when he did. Thankfully we worked it out and kept him here for his career.
     
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    The Lakers and C Bags are two of the biggest franchises in sports. In basketball, there are really two individual names that are even remotely close to that level of respect and they are MJ and him. Again, not saying he is bigger than the franchise but MJ/Lebron have attention/coverage that no individual athletes have.

    Lebron has been a topic of conversation on every single sports show for decades, regardless of team.
     
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