2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

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  1. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    You know, i’m not even sure they think that. At this point they seem to be trying to make silly, but bombastic moves that keep the discussion going, even when it’s negative. I have no other explanation, because no one can reasonably think that adding Westbrook to the mix of old Bron and Day-to-Davis can lead to the championship. Or even the playoffs for that matter. Almost every trade that people discussed on this forum in 2022 makes more sense than that idea.
     
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    Maybe. I don’t know. I’ve given up trying see their side of things because all I come back to when I look at their thought process is them just being really awful at their jobs.
     
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    depends on what's happened right before it's time to sign the next deal. but i'm guessing not. he's also not 38 years old and worth nearly a billion dollars.

    and i think he was quite clear that he signed his last contract to the full extent because he was worried he wouldn't cash in again. made sense for both sides, imo. we've gotten a bit burned by it, but i wouldn't have done it differently, even knowing that.

    as for the other banter, i will continue to say that our management is trying to fix things and win games, and the idea that they're in some grand conspiracy to dupe the fans is hilarious to me. as barns said in the jeanie thread, i don't doubt that she wants to win. i just don't think that her current model is going to make it happen. but she wants it. rob wants it. darvin wants it.

    i'm actually a little dubious as to how much lebron/AD/klutch want it, tbh.

    and that's whatever. lebron's old and has won rings. AD got his bona fides by playing a huge role in bringing in the title.

    we're in the doldrums now, and i'm open to seeing how we try to dig out. i'm not happy at all, but i understand what's happening and why. i think the twitter jockeys are going a bit nuts, tbh.
     
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    We need to be sellers at the deadline
     
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    i think we should be considering all options right now. and i think conveying that message to potential trade partners will help us in many ways.
     
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    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Sure abeer, but everyone wants it in a vacuum. You have to have a clear vision.. you have to be willing to invest in your young, talented players, not let them go for nothing. You have to be willing to trade big expiring contracts for pieces that will make a difference. Not worry about tax that much when you are a historical franchise, not a mom & pop business. It starts with the owners and it trickles down to the GM. Ham doesn’t really have anything to do with it at this point.

    They are unwilling to make any real moves, but will ca$h in on Bron breaking the scoring record as a Laker.
     
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    i think there's a current unified vision, but lebron and many fans don't like it.

    anyway, i'm glad we agree that the team's ownership and management aren't trying to trick everyone.
     
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    I think most of us would feel better if the FO was more transparent and shared some of that vision with us. Is it the “20xx” plan? Great. How do we get there?
     
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    the jim/mitch plan...
    "we're the lakers, we can sign anybody anytime"...we gona get deng/mozgov 2.0 lol
     
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    luka has 60 pts 21 rebounds and 10 assists tonight
     
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    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

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    I don’t believe that. She got rid of Mitch and her own brother once they f***ed up too much.

    Rob just won a championship 2 years ago, so she’s giving him a little too much benefit of the doubt IMO, but I think she’ll give him the boot if he keeps making bad decisions.
     
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    That’s gotta be one of the best statlines in NBA history, if not THE best

    Oh, and he led the Mavs back from down 9 with 33 seconds left. Including the game-tying shot to send it to OT too, after intentionally missing a free throw to perfection in order get his own rebound

    It’s a HUGE if, but IF somehow the head scratching moves from our front office is all to punt and position ourselves to get Luka when he’s available and it actually pays off, it will all have been worth it
     
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    can't see luka leaving dallas anytime soon. but really hope i'm wrong
     
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    no front office would ever do that lol
     
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    the kid was already the best player in the 2nd best league in the world at 17 years old, and the Kings pick Marvin Bagley ahead of him.

    passing on a generational talent like Luka is a decision that buries a franchise for at least a decade.
     
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    hawks too. and the worst part is they actually had him

    trae young is a great player, but luka is on a completely different level
     
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    That’s Wilt numbers by Luka
     
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    That extension is (another) indication that it was LeBron who pushed for that move and Jeannie gave leeway to Rob so he could get out of the mess while protecting the franchise. Best move of the offseason, actually

    At this point, if LeBron was still in charge we would have traded Russ and 1 pick for Wall lat year and Reaves, Bev, Nunn and a pick + a swap for DeRozan or something like that
     
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    yep. came here to say this. i think the reason rob's extension is pretty clear evidence that jeanie doesn't thinkt he russ trade was his thing. and again, by pretty much all accounts it wasn't. i think he's going to have more power in the basketball/cap moves going forward, and yes, he'll be fired if he makes bad decisions. i just don't think he's actually made them up until now.

    also agree that we would have already made a bad move or two if we were continuing with the same decision-making structure the produced russ.

    maybe this is my optimism, but i think 20xx plans are stupid in pretty much any form. too many unknowns. only miami and bkn have been successful in clearing the deck and targeting a year for things to happen, and it basically required years-long collusion. are we hoping for something like that with luka? probably, but i don't think we are or should be planning on it.

    the plan is basically not to throw good money after bad in the russ deal and to remain flexible. this puts us in position to get better deals going forward. i think in the short term, we plan to move bev/nunn/jones for something...better than nunn/bev/jones...without giving up a pick. i think the second phase of the short-term plan is to hope something better arises for russ prior to the deadline, but to sit tight if not. then we operate over the cap in the summer, developing some continuity, a slightly better roster, and a much better salary structure while staying under the tax.

    but that's just my idea, reading the tea leaves. as for whether they owe me a full plan...i don't know that you tip your hand. also, given how fans have reacted to fake deadlines, i'm not sure it's a good idea for fan relations that they know exactly what you want. because lots of factors go into whether or not these things come to fruition. "do it mitch" was a joke phrase for a reason.
     
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    Perhaps that is true, but they do seem to be a bit aimless right now.
     
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