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  1. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

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    I suggested we trade AD for 3 or 4 first round picks and a couple young players while his value was still there, and was called like, ridiculous. I said we’d be smart to get value for him while we could before he inevitably got injured again if we had no intention of trying to win with him. Like why have him here if we don’t intend to compete with him? If we don’t have faith enough in him staying healthy to trade draft picks to make the team better… like just trade him then to rebuild? So yeah, I don’t see how what I said then is any different than this really, should have traded him before, should trade him now, season ending injury or not, the season ending one is always around the corner with him. Love the dude, but he hurt his foot in mid air, like not even hitting the floor, in the air, he will never be healthy.
     
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    Yeah and who do you propose is going to give up all these assets for him, since he's soo injury prone then?
     
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    yeah, his value probably hasn't changed. our calculus does slightly if he's going to miss a full season, though.

    i'm still content to just ride out the lebron/AD era until their contracts expire together. that doesn't mean we can't do other things to improve long and short term outcomes, though.

    as jones said, AD is still the best two-way big in the league. the clips keep banking on just having kawhi for the right 30 games. the suns do it with paul, the warriors with curry. there's a reason these teams do this. we just have two of them.

    hell, one could argue the warriors and nets also have two of them. and now philly, since harden stopped being an iron man.

    i'll need to see a team built on depth win a ring before i'm ready to go fully in that direction.

    but no, slick, that does not mean i'm on team "3 star and the vet mins" either.
     
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    Why do that move to be at least the next 4 to 6 years unable to make any decent move for even an all star, much less a superstar? I can't seriously understand the rationale behind

    It's a players league, most superstars are getting moved before FA because they demand out before their contract expires, plus teams try to cash in while they still can.

    Every 8 years we can move 4 picks as per the Stepien rule. We do that move the next pick we can move is the 2031, except swaps who are less appealing. So only in 2026 we get a 2nd pick we can move which is still short to get a big name so we need to wait for 2028 to have 3 picks to move, the current price for a superstar. Is it worthy to be out of big name conversations for the next 6!! YEARS because of OG Anunoby?
     
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    Oh c'mon, Curry is not comparable to AD in any way. That's a stretch. He's load managed for sure, but apart from the season ending injury he played +60 3 season and one over 50. AD did it only once since he's with us
     
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    I just can't give up on Anthony..not yet. I have to admit, that if this thing turns out to be season ending though? I'd be quietly listening to any and all offers, for he and Lebron this summer.
     
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    he hasn't reached 70 games in 5 years (i, too, can choose arbitrary benchmarks to suit my purpose). he played 5 games in 2019-20. he's set to miss a huge chunk this year. but he's not glass, i know. steel, baby.
     
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    I would do the exact opposite and try to sell him on a high point.

    we won't get much in the summer for him if he's out with this injury until then.
     
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    You're being unfair and you know it. 70 games is pretty much the new 82, there was never so much load management as there are nowadays. One thing is to DECIDE to rest your guy for a b2b here and there. Or take a 2/3 game out in a road trip that the team chooses to. Other is to miss weeks in different periods of the season like it's happening with AD.

    I agree with your comparison AD/Kawhi. Kawhi is even a worse case actually and it's embarrassing for any franchise. But AD is right next to him and there's not a lot in this group (you can add Zion and alike). Curry is not on that list. He had a season-ending injury and the rest he has been healthy enough to carry his team to 6 Finals, last one was just a season ago. Can't say the same about AD
     
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    Can’t see AD or LeBron moving unless they demand it.
     
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    Russ not playing. Please let it be something :Laugh::Laugh::Laugh:
     
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    A trade?

    :RW Barfbag:
     
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    I still believe in Rob:Laugh::Laugh::Laugh:
     
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    The whole NBA has given up. You should too, stop wasting time on washed up players.
     
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    if we're punting the season wouldn't it be wise to potentially try to get some FRPs along with absorbing one or two bad contracts, but for players who can help us a bit in the meanwhile and also next season?

    I'm thinking Hayward, Rozier, Tobias Harris.

    The Heat would probably give us more than 1 FRP to get rid of Duncan Robinson, and he's a Hield-type when in shape. Was a huge threat in the bubble. Pretty bad contract though, but he'd be a better fit here.
     
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    The guy isn't washed, he's playing out of position. Funny that once everybody got their wish. AD as a full-time 5, he's missed more time than he ever did in New Orleans. The guy was DPOY and 1st team All NBA in New Orleans...as a power forward. I never got this obsession with him playing 5. Yeah, it can be great for his numbers, but that doesn't mean jack if he can't finish the season .
     
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    Yup. This comes down to the FO and coaching staff not understanding that his body can’t take it. Maybe someone has spoken up and said that AD shouldn’t be at the 5? We don’t know. All I know is that it’s a colossal failure to waste his prime years like this.
     
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    He will get injured playing PG. It doesn't matter at this point. For AD, minimal contact and sometimes even no contact can result in an injury.

    They could have played him at the 4 and Bryant at the 5 without any problems. Although the result would have been the same. He'd still have to score on Jokic inside, no matter what.
     
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    That's not what happened in New Orleans or in his 1st year here either. It's a cumulative thing of being the only big we have on the floor IMO. He missed some games in New Orleans, but that gets overblown too. Most of the games he missed that last season there, were due to them sitting him after demanding a trade.
     
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