2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Yeah who knows. All Rob has to do is speak facts to Indiana and put the ball in their court.

 

indy's holding out just like we are, imo. they plan to move turner somewhere for a 1st rounder, and they'll probably get it (unless he gets hurt, so they're taking a risk). i don't think they plan to move hield for a 1st, so if we were offering both, they would have foregone the risk scenario with turner.

they're hoping us, the clippers, and whomever start a bidding war for turner in the interim. good news for us is that the clippers don't have much more to offer. the first pick they can offer is in 2028, i think. and the word is they're offering reggie jackson or john wall (expiring) plus a wing (guessing kennard or covington). since indy isn't incentivized to win short-term, i don't think the clippers have a better package than us. but someone else might.

 

Clippers got crap to offer... but Indy will deal with them (or anyone but the Lakers) anyway. I hope, the new Lakers owner is a stone cold businessman and will "talk" to Silver about this BS.

 

The Buss family is selling?

 

we can dream right?

 

i assume he meant gm?

anyway, i think we're in this spot because rob is a stone cold business man. what i think most fans don't recognize or appreciate is how much the gm game is about relationships moreso than skill. it's why you see the same teams repeatedly deal with each other, etc. rob pretty much blew the indy relationship up when he tampered with george, which also upset the rest of the fraternity. and they're big mad because rob still has one more ring than just about all of them added together.

rob inverted some of the standard operations, and they're making him pay, imo. but i'm actually quite serious that if turner goes for less than our public offers, jeanie needs to chat with silver about whether we're seeing inappropriate levels of collusion/lack of equity. that will be the second time in the span of a few months that someone paid less than what we offered for an asset.

 

LOL, no, i want Jeanie gone asap. Pelinka is traeted this way not because he was an agent and was tough but because he's full of s***.

 

He’s just about the worst human in the league. Am I doing it right?

 

so rob's the only gm in the nba who's full of s***? he's being treated this way because a) he violated some of the gm bro code and b) he's been successful.

 

…. AND works for the Lakers.

 

Im not sure all the other GM's tell these bs, made up, preacher like stories. We'll find out... in 3 or whatever years he got that extension for.

 

We get it. 95% of the fans on this board hate the FO and Jeanie as owner. So what? Works both ways.

 

Not necessarily directed at your posts which you flesh out nicely but there’s just non stop piling on, not all of which is warranted and assumptions made not always accurate, such as the mocking about him screwing the pooch with Walker and Brown for 2 months until we got a chance to see them play.

 

do you like what we've seen last yr and now this years team? Do you like seeing more than half of the team come and go like a revolving door every off-season?

 

No, that's a load of pipe started by Windhurst and he was just suggesting the Buss's sell a small piece, not relinquish controlling interest. Anyway, it's all false, no one is selling anything.

 

Everyone has their opinions, don't get to the point where your opinions are more correct than many others! I understand your POV but everyone else has a right to their POV as well. I hate the general negativity, even though I understand it, I still want to root for the team. I root for the FO too. Yeah, they have had some hard times but I don't want to support the idea of hoping they fail so they can be run out of town. My hope is that Jeannie will eventually get her s*** together or one of her other family members will start getting input and do a better job. I would be happy to see the Buss family succeed and am willing to put up with some bad times to see it happen. Getting Lebron was a good move but it has not turned out exactly as planned. Rob is hopefully learning some lessons and will get better. If he is being blackballed for stuff he did as an agent, not much any of us can do unless we can show Silver that they have colluded against us for selfish reasons. If they have proof of this they should go for it, if not his days may be numbered.

I'm a fan until the last second and then, and ONLY then, will I support their demise.

 

Wall and Jackson seems a bit much for a center as that leaves the Clips with virtually no PG. Everything else the Clippers have to trade is multi-year, not really aligning with Indy's plans. We ain't exactly offering a windfall either but a Beverley/Nunn deal may entice them more as Nunn is cheap & young and is certain to snap out of it someday or maybe they might be interested in Christie (throw in Jones to make the money work).

I think Indy's angle with us is to also offload Hield and peel that 2nd FRP off of us though.

 

Last year, hell no. But that was the Russ trade and him not being in a contract year having to be the good soldier, and Vogel having to deal with yes bad decisions who stayed and who left because of it. Unlike many I don’t find Rob at fault for Russ with the power dynamics in the organization and with his 2 superstars that brought him a ring the calendar year prior. This year, aside from Jones’s blah basketball performance, I still think his off season was better than most here, if we’d have had everyone available at the same time and LeBron not going through his issues and Nunn severely under performing compared to his past. With what was realistically available, monetarily, again thanks to Russ eating 50M in salary. And what I feel is more of a Lakers tax than a Rob tax with regard to how potential trade partners have negotiated with us. Clearly they expected Russ to be gone and some of the imbalance in the roster to have been corrected.