2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

There are a few issues here that you didn’t mention:

- Hield isn’t a good defender
- Turner isn’t a good shooter
- Turner is more injury prone than AD
- They want two picks and/or maybe more

If we could do it for Russ alone and some swaps + seconds it’s a no brainer. But sending firsts isn’t smart.

 

I was going to type “Reaves” in my post because I was thinking the same thing, but the thought of it becoming a reality started to make me sick.

 

those 20 minutes he's played in each game this season must have really worn him out

blows my mind why they call AD "street clothes" when he's played more games than kawhi has since both got to LA

 

Which looks better to me than it did in the off-season. If Ham can get Walker to defend, he can get Oubre to defend. Plumlee would be a godsend after the disappointment that's been our newly signed bigs. Hayward is the prized possession from Charlotte. If Ham can monitor his minutes enough to limit the likelihood of him getting hurt, he's the second best player we have a chance at (#1 is Turner).

They don't address the wing in terms of incoming talent, but it does give you your best wing option defensively -- AD. With Turner in the mix, AD can play free safety more and see minutes against the bigger wings like he did in the bubble. And if you address shooting with bringing in these two, you can afford to swap Ryan for a Harkless which will help shore up the wing rotation of Brown/JTA/Harkless. While it is true Hield is a bad defender, a blind seeing eye dog would be better than Russ.

 

If you can get a high end two way modern big for $20mish, you use a hair dryer on that contract. Ink can't dry quick enough.

Can't make a case against Turner while making a case for a Hayward trade.

Career wisev PJ Washington averages a whopping .8 more 3 point makes a game than Turner. Turner has better FG% overall, from 2, and FT. That's enough in his favor to overcome the attention that .8 additional 3 will garner from the defense

AD staying at C where he doesn't want to be and has no other help at the position while being pushed to the brink of injury every night at the pace he's playing? No thanks.

We did sign a couple of centers. They apparently suck and Bryant is already hurt again.

You act as though AD and Turner are throw back bigs. They're not. They're fast, mobile, cover a lot of ground and can switch to multiple positions and win the matchup. They provide rim protection but it's not like you're trotting out two Mutumbo's out there.

I like Scary Terry but he is TINY. Is another small guard the answer?

He's not.

 

i wouldn't mind that price for reupping Turner, centers like Adams/Goebert make that much with very limited offensive skills

 

I will gladly pay a 27 year old in his prime as a big man Turner the $20m range for his extension, even with all the injury risk vs. us hitting the FA market to sign a 33 year old Draymond Green to $25m-$30m.

 

Small sample size, but we’re already a top defensive team. Turner isn’t a Marc Gasol or Brook Lopez type 3&D rim protector. He is, but my point is that he’s more. He can defend guards and wings in space like AD. We’d have two ADs on this already good defensive team. Hield is meh, but his gravity as a shooter would help. And, Beverly and Nunn are going to progress to their mean shooting averages. We’ll end up a 33% three pt shooting team, which is terrible. But with elite d, we’d have a punchers chance.

 

Yeah Hayward scares me, matching up to Turner, Turner has never broke anything like when Hayward broke his ankle and sat the whole season. Hayward is also 32 compared to 26. Turner's big issues came the past 2 seasons, Hayward has had issues for 5 years and has played in 41.5% of available games since then. Prior to the past 2 seasons, for the previous 4 seasons, Myles played in 89% of available games and also, prior to the past 2 seasons he played in the playoffs for 5 years straight. He does not scare me as much as Hayward. I'm just not a huge fan of Hield unless Ham can somehow make him play some D.

 

No moral victories, but panic is for the clippers

 

What excuse?

 

They count the same, but the panic is silly. Its been 3 games.

 

Did you forget what you said?

 

What????

 

My answer to this always depended on what was actually on the table and that makes this one tricky to speculate on.

If I felt like the best offer we could get was honestly with Indiana, then I would've already done that deal. I do agree that this team seems to have been built with that trade in mind.

However, if I know that I've got potential trade partners in Charlotte, San Antonio, or a mystery team (meaning we've had numerous talks laying down the groundwork for a potential deal at some point), that wouldn't require me to give up as many picks, then I get wanting to wait and see here. If you can just trade Russ and not give up much, then that's the way to go in my opinion.

I have read more comments from the Jazz reporter that a pick coming back to us from Utah was a part of those trade talks. Even though Bogdan went for much less later, there's a good chance I'd have pulled the trigger on something with them.

 

This would be nice and would definitely ease concerns about him long term.

 

Hayword is just a throw in to help Charlotte dump salary. It's not like I'm saying Hayward is better than Turner. The main components of that trade would be Rozier and Washington. In regards to Washington and Tuner, Washington makes a career 2.0 three pointers per 36 minutes while Turner makes a career 1.1 three pointers per 36 minutes. In basketball, that is a significant difference. 2.0 threes per game is 164 threes per year, which can be considered high volume three point shooting. Turner hit more than 69 threes only one season. PJ hit 86 threes his rookie season and had over 100 threes per season the following two seasons.