2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

why is it silly? this sort of thing happens all the time. i guess the definition of "quality" is the issue?

but conley/bogdanovic was something i'd definitely have done. bogdanovic went for less than an expiring! no 1st.

 

Sure, but it didn't happen for Westbrook with the Lakers, yet.

Maybe that changes, but I doubt it.

 

i guess, but you suggested that it was something that didn't happen. i think it does happen quite a bit, and thus thinking it's possible isn't silly.

and if it's not going to happen because we're the lakers, then this applies to basically any idea about any trades, right?

 

I said, "nothing of value is coming back in a potential WB deal, that's just silly...".

I'm specifically talking about Westbrook. Sure, it has happened before, but I don't think it happens with Westbrook.

 

right, so why is this one different? because we're us? because his contract is too large? i'm just not understanding why it couldn't follow the standard pattern for such things.

i'm not saying he's going to be moved; i'm saying dismissing it out of hand doesn't make sense to me.

 

ok, so you believe it won't happen because we're the lakers. i was trying to figure out if that was lavar's point, too.

and that's possible, though i don't know if it's THAT pronounced. i think indy has a specific (and reasonable) grudge with us at the management level. but not every team has that, and at some point, russ's expiring may become appetizing enough that teams ignore who's benefitting on the other end.

and i think we are basically punting the season, and that conversation happened when lebron signed his extension. we told lebron the picks would go if XX conditions were met, and turner/hield weren't the conditions. so either we'll do better than that, we'll pay less, or we'll just keep russ until the wheels fall off the whole thing.

 

There's a combination of reasons. Lakers tax, Rob's ineptitude, Russ not having much value currently, etc.

Again, could teams lower their asking price to for just a Russ trade for just his contract since he's an expiring? Sure, but I'm not counting on it.

Any Westbrook transaction involves at least 1 pick going out...IMO.

 

I liked all of the reported combos of Utah players better than the Hield/Turner duo.

 

It seems like the Shroeder signing was made with strong anticipation of the Westbrook for Turner/Hield trade. With the current roster, the Shroeder signing doesn't make much sense. Dennis makes sense in the back court next to Hield, because he helps strengthen the defense, while at the same time providing a solid ball handler. Nunn/Hield or Beverly/Hield combos also make sense though, because they provide maximum floor spacing. But, for some reason, I feel like they wouldn't be too comfortable with a Nunn/Hield backcourt, which is I could see why they would want Dennis in there.

 

Ot they thought Dennis and Bev would be a great 2nd team backcourt.

 

Possibly. Shroeder makes more sense with WB off the roster though. Backcourt is pretty packed with WB/Nunn/Shroeder/Beverly and Walker. Also, Reeves, Brown and JTA who can also play guard will be utilized in the front court.

 

again, all depends on what constitutes a quality return, right? i could think of many deals in which russ leaves and no picks go out. you may not like them; i may not even like them, but they can definitely happen.

also, i'm not sure rob's as inept as folks claim. some of this is reminiscent of the media claiming he didn't understand the cap, which was an embarrassingly incorrect assertion that got to be gently swept under the rug.

i think our FO has been dysfunctional at times, and may still be. and that's a problem. but none of that means things have to happen or not.

or schroder was the best FA left on the market by a country mile and was willing to take our minimum offer? i know people hate him because he turned down our money (which, whatever, imo), but a different player of his stature signs for the minimum elsewhere and i promise our fans and the twitterati are like "why can't rob pull something like that off?!" he did. schroder might be the biggest value signing anyone made this offseason, tbh.

you better carry 5 guards. all teams have five guards. we have six, which i think is ok, too. and counting brown and JTA as guards is reaching, imo. they're sfs who can sometimes play pf if the other team goes small. they've logged precious few minutes as backcourt players and don't project as such, imo.

 

That don't require a pick? Don't agree.

Amd this FO is a joke besides Jesse and Joey. Needs an overhaul. But that overhaul might include Rambis taking over because ownership is about just as inept as management.

 

This is with respect to teams that might potentially tank and just start relinquishing assets to make themselves worse to enhance their chances at getting Victor (can't spell last name) in the draft.

 

This is largely where I’m at with it. If a deal materializes then great but I’m expecting Russ to be here for the season.

I also not so quietly suspect the league has let it be known that the trade demands from big stars like what we saw with Durant is going to be frowned upon.

We will see how things play out.

I expect teams to stick to their guns on the draft picks though.

 

No doubt Shroeder was a great value signing. I think still, they might of had some kind of sense that the log jam would be alleviated a bit. There is obviously nothing unusual about having 5 guards, but I just feel that some of these guards require significant playing time. None of these guys are exactly rookies or useless vets. Many factors here: Politics with WB. Why would Shroeder sign to be minimized as 12-24mpg back up? Beverly too good to bench. Lakers interest in showcasing Nunn (and Klutch client) Politics of giving MLE to Walker (also a Klutch client). Are they going to be okay with him as the 5th guard?

 

Unless we find a team that is tanking, lol.

Idk why Indiana would want Hield or Turner. Bare in mind, I'm not stuck on their deal, but its like there's a tantalizing prospect that could make you relevant, sell the farm (probably get a pick in the process) , and go after that number 1 spot.

 

…Mitch would definitely be a great trade partner for us. Best chance of getting a straight up deal and I’ve always liked some of their pieces.