2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Maybe if we had a GM in place who you know, other GMs around the League actually had a positive relationship with, something could have actually gone down.

 

And maybe not. See Laker tax. Especially after we again took a great cornerstone player from another franchise in AD. Wilt. Kareem. Shaq. AD. There's no love lost between other owners and the Lakers period with our 17 banners up on the wall.

 

Well, you could be right, but: Wouldn’t you think the chances of getting something done would be greatly increased IF we had a GM in place who was well respected and had good working relationships with other GMs around the League?
We actually successfully traded Kwame Brown for Pau.
We had the deal done for CP3 which would have gone down if someone didn’t go blabbering his mouth off about it.
These were both done within very recent times of winning Championships and the LakerTax existed back then.

 

Since we don’t know the specifics behind any of these potential trades and why they didn’t happen it’s also possible we were just going to come out on the short end …. but why let that stand in the way of piling on Rob Pelinka and on this team before a single game is even played. I am NOT saying we don’t have problems but in 17 years on Lakers forums now starting with Clublakers through Lakersball I have never seen so much the sky is falling and we suck and ownership sucks and needs to sell the team … 3 seasons removed from a championship that even some of our own members here are pissing all over it because they didn’t like the circumstances of how that season had to be played. People can feel how they want to feel but I have to agree with a post @Wino put up about a week ago on how outrageous the entitlement has gotten with a large swath of Lakers Nation. We’ve been blessed over the years and every single year so much has to go right for any one team to win a championship. It has just gotten f****** ugly around here from so many before we even play a practice game. So expect some blowback from those of us tired of listening to how much the entire organization and players on the roster suck. Even if yeah it looks far less than an optimal situation for the team at present.

 

We have to quit blaming our current FO for this situation. This situation is happening because of our past success. Hit your head against the brick wall everyone!!! This is going to be the situation regardless of anything we can do about it. It is what it is, period!! Ain't Rob's fault, ain't Jeannie's fault, ain't Magic's fault. It is the price of success. The losers get to pick on us. Fk the losers!!! Shut up and find a way to beat them yet again. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy.

 

I'm with LT!

 

If that's what the bar is to get those picks, we'll still have them on those draft nights. Just shows how far off Rob was in valuing them vs. how other GMs are valuing them, even with Laker tax baked in. Those are face of the franchise players and that cost more than two picks unless you're guaranteed two top 5 picks in really good drafts... even then I'm not sure that's enough. Face of franchises get picks and young assets in return. Since we have zero young assets, it makes that a non starter for that caliber player. The only reason we were in the mix for Kyrie is because he's a nut job, KD thought about leaving and Ky wanted to come here at one point.

 

Rob did exactly what he should have done IMO. "Give me a deal that bowls me over, or I'm standing pat." These other GMs aren't fighting each other , for the right to run out, and give up multiple draft picks, for any of these trade ideas floated for the Lakers either.

I pined over Jerami Grant and Christian Wood over the summer. Both guys went for a FRP and draft filler. This season we are in a position to make those kind of deals. Bev, Nunn and Walker represent 25 million in expiring contracts. Coupled with the picks. We can actually be in a much stronger position by the trade deadline. We still have Russ and his expiring deal, I'm loving the options that we have available later, going into the season.

 

we should be all over Jae Crowder deal...I would trade Nunn for him immediately. The Suns need a true backup guard for CP3 and I think Nunn fits them perfectly. We need a 3&D Wing in the worst way and Jae would start for us.

 

Sorry, you can keep believing the same group of fools who teach this kind of “science.” I however, will continue to not fall for the lies.

 

lol, am a scientist, know and work with lots of actual scientists, and the guy posting this inane s*** isn't one.

 

True. We don't have young assets. Only reason for the bad use of THT for Beverley. But that deal needed to be done.
We do however have an expiring that can allow teams to have a clean slate next year and control their costs under the tax.
The thing is that an expiring contract like that is either traded for longer contracts or for short contracts with a pick attached. We seem to want neither.

But it's a good negotiating position, even if we don't get a deal done it's the right thing to do. We can't be beggers

 

i'll add that mitchell was had for zero high quality young players. neither cleveland nor anyone else wanted to pay sexton. he was salary filler that you could maybe sell some fans on, but trust me, ainge doesn't see him as a foundational piece. markannen has been traded twice already and hasn't been sought after, either. they're the kind of guys who can be acquired with expirings and 2nds or other floundering youngsters, imo.

i didn't like the bev trade for several reasons, but i'm willing to let some things play out. once russ wasn't going, THT's value was just going to keep dropping, unfortunately. that's a different mistake, but one that needn't be compounded.

 

The bev trade actually makes zero sense with Russ staying on the roster and us signing Schroder.

 

he's still more playable than THT even given those facts--and i say that as one of THT's bigger fans on this forum. i also think the trade was a favor to THT/klutch as well.

you have to think of bev as a small sg, not a pg, imo. i think people misconstrued rob's quote about him being a 3 and d wing as he's mikal bridges. i don't think he meant that. i just think he was underlining that they don't see him as a pg, especially on offense. russ, schroder, and nunn are the pgs.

speaking of, the nonsensical basketball fit was the walker signing, which definitely had a lot to do with his agency.

we're currently armed with about 60 million in expirings and a couple firsts. i'm guessing some of that will be cashed in for better on-court fits as the season progresses and we see what works and doesn't work both here elsewhere.

 

Worst case...we have 72 million in expiring contracts between Russ, Walker, Nunn, and Beverley. Yeah a NBA " wing" is considered to be either a 2 or 3. Bev should be able to hold his own against most 2's. Anytime you have such of a large roster turnover, some of these guys are going to play better than expected, some will be what we expected, and some wont play as well we hoped. I'm hoping that we get more of the 1st two.

 

Wonder if Moe gets bought out or flipped for a second rounder. If he gets bought out, we should pursue. I like his size.