2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Like who?

 

I'm not saying these are the people we are going for, and I know that contract extensions and RFAs are in effect, but this is the list of GOOD people that I could see them trying for next year:

Kristaps Porzingis, Andrew Wiggins, D'Angelo Russell, Myles Turner (get him cheaper), Bojan Bogdanovic (see Myles Turner), Caris LeVert, Gary Trent Jr., Malik Beasley, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Larry Nance Jr., James Wiseman, Jae Crowder, Victor Oladipo, Tyrese Haliburton, Tyler Herro, Austin Rivers, Desmond Bane, and some interesting rookies on here that could be FAs next year.

Again, I am not saying they should go for all of these guys, nor do I think they will....but with some of these guys options for cheap and also a few of these guys being up and coming stars......maybe there IS a plan.

I hate that we keep doing this, as I swear we have been doing this since the Kobe/Pau days with Mitch and Jim. It sucked then and it sucks now, but whatever. They want to say they have a plan, so let them for now. Maybe this team this year will surprise us with being better than we thought. Maybe Ham will really get everyone to commit and play well, so I am willing to say "Okay, go nuts." on this year and hope for the best, but being okay IF it doesn't work out. We'll see. What do we have to lose. Either we do well and make some noise and get excited, or it's another sad year and we are free of some contracts and try again. Those picks SHOULDN'T lose value, so we just trade them next year and maybe we get some big name people that way?

Time will tell.

 

if a guy gets to FA, you're probably not getting him cheaper than his current rate, unless he sucks.

RFAs are out unless you're a gambling man, and when you've got an 80 yr old lebron, you are not a gambling man.

FA next year just sucks. i hope we do something the makes us not a player in FA 2023. i mean, look at that list. and then imagine you get like, one of those guys, AD and lebron, and vet mins! holy s***!

 

Training camp invites. I want to keep Dwayne Bacon though for the Ham/Bacon jokes

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34672230/gave-4-year-100m-plus-extension-unvaccinated

Kyrie gave up 4 yr 100million

 

That list is a lot better than this year's bunch. This had to be one of the worst FA summers in recent memory.

 

matty ice!

 

Next year’s free agency class isn’t very exciting, but there are some good players out there. No single player I think that would be worth throwing all our cap space at (unless maybe Kyrie proves himself this year and would be willing to take a paycut). But if you could split that ~$30 million into 2-3 solid role players BEFORE you have the MLE and veteran’s minimum, your roster construction is starting from a much deeper foundation and that opens up your options.

Like just throwing this out there without thinking about the math too much (so it’s probably a bit on the unrealistic side), but imagine using the cap space and MLE on some combination of 3 out of Myles Turner, Gary Trent Jr, Harrison Barnes, Seth Curry. Now you can feasibly add the right crop of veteran’s minimum players around them to possibly be a very good team. Probably not a championship favorite, but a good team. And more importantly, you now have multiple players under contracts that you can actually trade down the line (which can potentially get back someone more significant if you still have the FRPs too)

Is that ideal? Probably not. But better than gambling the FRPs on some average players on long term deals that don’t make a significant difference this year or look to be long term building blocks.

But I do think it’s more likely that we end up finding a good deal with the FRPs that takes away our cap flexibility while still being worth it. I.e, if we be patient, circumstances may shake out to allow us to trade the picks for a legit “third star”, whether by trading Russ before the deadline or by absorbing a player via trade into the cap space next summer.

But now I’m terrified seeing some discussion about Draymond Green in this thread. It would be so terribly on brand for this team to punt this season for cap space, only to waste the cap space entirely on Draymond Green. And it’s so plausible. The Warriors seem like they (rightly) don’t want to max Green, and Draymond is the kind of guy who I could see taking that personally. So even if the Warriors end up offering more than us, I could see Draymond joining his buddy Lebron if we threw everything we had at him. And I could see Lebron/Klutch foolishly pushing for it.

And I’m actually still pretty high on Draymond as a player, in the sense that I think his defense and playmaking are a perfect and valuable fit for GSW. But for us a roster construction where AD, 39 year old Lebron, and 33 year old Draymond are taking up all your cap room, would be so disastrous it would almost be funny.

 

And he’s a guard, so we NEED him!

 

He wants out because Suns aren’t starting him… Cavs should make a bid for him tbh. Start him at SF.

 

I just want to see what we already have play first. Nothing works without Lebron and AD turning in a full season. It's kind of hard to forecast the future, when the present campaign hasn't even begun.

 

Well both of those guys are 6'7.

 

Not funny- it would just be continued stupidity from Rob. Whatever, I’ve seen more than enough bumbling to not expect any amount of excellence from this “brain trust.”

 

There are things in this life more important than money. BTW, it’s sad that the majority are still calling it a “vaccine” when the scientific properties are unlike every other vaccine on the market. False Narratives die hard when fear is your god.
Sad.

 

It will crack me up if, down the road, we end out finding out that Kyrie was right all along.

 

oh christ. seriously, get out with this s***.

 

anyway, on from dangerous fiction back to basketball:

it's not the mle, it's the room exception (5m, less than the ntmle).

remember that you're trading every single non-lebron/AD, non-rookie contract for whomever you bring in.

also remember that pretty much every single one of those guys has to take a paycut to fit into even half of our space, much less 1/3. turner's not going into FA to take under 20 million (he's going to try to get 25).

3rd plan: trade russ for two or three guys with no picks going out. make sure not to take on any albatross contracts. it's why the latest leaks are curious to me. almost feels like we might have been able to swing something like conley/bogdanovic without a 1st. if that were true, and we didn't, i'm terrified of what the plan is.

operating under the cap, with less than max space and such a blah FA crop, is lunacy.

oh yes. could totally happen.

yep. though it's not much worse than hoarding space to overpay gary trent and an aging seth curry or something. again, cap space plans just generally suck. it's buying lotto tickets except more expensive.

we've got to move russ prior to the deadline unless he has a great year. if the latter's the case, we can extend him at a lower number this summer or even s&t him possibly. seems unlikely, so a trade it is. but man, just walking into next season with 34 million to spend in this FA class is doom.

 

would've been fine with trading both for kyrie. not so much for mitchell