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Maybe Clarkson's deal is more tradeable?

 

We don't really need size nor facilitating at that position, fyi. We need shooting and decent defense if possible.

 

I would take Conley/Bogdanovic/Beasley straight up for Russ and 1 FRP.

But that FRP is going to be unprotected likely.

or we're going to end up giving up 2 FRP's and both will be unprotected.

Honestly, anything to get Russ out of here though - getting 3 very useful players that can also easily be traded later is what we need to focus on. Russ is going to cost us no matter where he lands, and that's fine. We need to maximize LeBron/AD for the next 2 years and we can get it done with the right role players around them and the right COACH, which I believe Darvin is for us (and all of these players are Darvin Ham type players).

Russ is just such a bad fit that I don't care what we give up - as long as we get useful rotation players back and they address our weaknesses....I'm happy. Conley/Bog/Beasley or Conley/Bog/Clarkson fit the mold of what we're weak in right now. They'll bring defense, shooting, playmaking and scoring. Can't ask for much more than that.

 

What is this misunderstanding of Conley about?
Conley's been a proven floor general on the Grizzlies and Utah. A smart defender. Can shoot the 3 at a good clip. He brings defense and shooting we desperately need.

 

???Clarkson just replaced Monk. Bogdonavic is taller, cheaper and on par with Hield as a shooter, Turner is the ideal running partner for AD. The salaries fit, and overall its a more impactful trade. Bev and Nunn aren't far off from Mike Conley as players IMO.

 

So. He's only been out of the 1st rd 3 times in his career. He made it to the Conference Finals once. He makes too much cash to waste on a marginal impact player IMO. He doesn't shoot all that great and he was absolutely terrible in the playoffs this season. Got hurt in the 1st round last season. I'll pass on this guy. James is a pretty good floor general .

 

Am on phone and can’t paste the article but read this to see what an incredible record of failure this signing brings to an end.

https://theathletic.com/3549832/202...on-knicks-history/?source=user_shared_article

 

Correct, what worked in the bubble with Lebron was Caruso, disrupting lanes, guarding the smaller guards with his wing size and with the occasional hits from outside. It was an incredibly stupid piece to let go of in favor of a younger piece we couldn't wait to trade again for another smaller, older version of Caruso in Beverley.

Caruso's lane disruption and general peskiness was way underestimated by Rob and co.

 

Reaves is going to be better than Caruso was in the bubble this season. Alex only played 20 minutes a game. What worked in the bubble was size and length, coupled with guys that could get out on the wings and contest shots. Folks underestimate the size and length part of the equation. It wasn't all about Caruso and KCP .

 

So we shouldn't have traded for Pau back in the day because he never won a playoff game before joining us.

He shot 40% from 3 last season, better than anyone on our team.

 

Also - I'm not seeing how this deal was great for Utah.

The Cavs got the best player in this deal - a superstar in his prime at only 26 years old.

They gave up Sexton (whom they didn't want, and he was injured all of last year), Markannen (decent role player but nothing special) and their 2022 first round pick whom I don't think will be anything special...and then 3 unrpotected picks in 2025, 2027 and 2029...and then two pick swaps in 2026 and 2028. But I think the Cavs are going to be better than the Jazz for the foreseeablef uture bcuz their core of Garland/Mitchell/Levert/Mobley/Allen are 22,26,28,21,24 so they're built for the next 5-7 years to compete and be a playoff team so all those picks will be middling non-lotto picks.

I think Ainge was wanting 8 picks or whatever - didn't get anywhere close to that. Pick swaps to me are not "picks" because team still KEEPS the pick end of the day and then they can trade that pick once they've made it!

 

Do you watch the games? Like, actually watch the players make cuts, screens, etc?

 

So? He's still 6'1 and his salary wouldn't work trying to land Turner. I'm all about the total package possibility. Conley's inclusion kills any deal for Turner. Bogdonavic shot 38% from 3 and Beverly is a career 38% from 3. It's not that big of a deal IMO.

 

Yep..been rewatching every game from last season lately. Austin Reaves is going to be a superior player to Caruso in the bubble IMO. Starting this season. We are only talking about 20 minutes a game here.

 

Watch the first half of Game 6 in 2020 Finals. Then realize the Lakers were #1 on defense both seasons Caruso was a regular and than went into the black hole of a rhinos a** when the Lakers replaced him with Russell Westsuck.

 

Yeah..pick swaps aren't all that IMO. Mitchell is a high end player, he should thrive with that young group in Cleveland. He was pretty good in Utah, he should be the same in Cleveland.

 

Except your total package possibility isn’t realistic. Indy wanted both picks and THT for while also throwing a bad contract on us. Suddenly Turner is gonna be available for just one of the picks?

I agree, its not a big deal. BUT its a big deal if you’re nonchalantly calling him a bad shooter.

 

He wasn't the only guy that stepped up. Rondo was huge in the bubble too wasn't he? KCP played starter minutes against the top opposing guards, and he hit shots. Caruso gets a bit too much credit for his role. He was however a star in his role.

He took most money offered..I can't blame him. I can't blame us for balking at coughing up 30 plus million for him due to the luxury tax either. Folks forget that Russ salary was matched by KCP, Trez and Kuz. We were already over the salary cap and needed a PG. If wasn't a given that we give Alex that money anyway, it wasn't just because we signed Westbrook.

 

Meh..Indiana wants this..they want that...they say Utah wanted 5 picks not 2 pick swaps. Nobody is giving up 2FRP for Turner and Hield. Have you actually read about anyone being interested in aTurner and Hield package besides the Lakers? I don't care what they were throwing out before, they want to move those guys it seems to me...I don't think we should give up more than 1 FRP. Hell...we can toss em a bone with a pick swap in 2030 or something.

 

I was thinking the same thing. I don't know about the combination of Conley/Clarkson though. One of them is bad enough.