2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Three wings for Russ is a win of you're only giving up 1 first. Think we may want to get a PG from one of them. Bev is only a 24 MPG player and Nunn can't get on the court.

If the Nunn reports are accurate, I'd rather also include Nunn and Gabe in this thing and get Rose included.

I still prefer getting Turner from Indy, but could live with this return.

 

I like D Rose but good lord..his injury history is the red flag of all red flags.

 

At least he's played 5 on 5 in the past year. That's more than we can say about Nunn

 

Agreed. People need to understand - In these deals, we're getting rid of Westbrook and replacing him with 3 valuable players who have a chance to have success with our team. That avenue is not available if Westbrook is on the team. He's a negative player if you care about winning games.

We get bigger on the wings, we add more shooting AND get rid of Westbrook who is the opposite of both size on the wing and ESPECIALLY shooting.

 

Nowadays there's only 3 positions I think. Bigs, wings and small guards. There's a bunch of teams throwing lineups with 3 or even 4 wings. I don't see a problem there. You can definitely play LeBron-Fournier-Bogdanovic-Reddish-AD

Fournier has 3y of contract right? Since we have LeBron we avoid those contracts. But I heard his last year is not guaranteed? Still, I guess we will try to avoid him

Any trade that get us 2/3 serviceable players would be a huge win
I also think it's unlikely Utah doesn't grab Quickley in a Mitchell trade with NY, he fits them on what they want to do

I don't think you can S&T while adding players of the same team

 

Really? That's a bummer. I'd pivot to Bridges and Bogdonavic or Fournier then. A dynamic 4 to pair with AD and a shooter. Bridges is the prize..I love an AD/Turner pairing but I'd love a Bridges/AD pairing too. We already have Bryant and Jones. I'm all for going back to the Chip team concept. 6 big guys or better, than can go out and beat up, and wear down these small ball teams in a 7 game series.

 

Indy deal doesn't look good, now it's revealed what they wanted from us for Turner/Hield:

2 FRPs (probably unprotected)
THT
Daniel Theis contract to us.

Thats a tough pill and THT is obviously moved already so they will want to fill that void with something.

 

If we are getting in on the Knicks/Jazz deal, we should try to get Mike Conley. He’s the type of point guard who fits perfectly next to AD/Lebron. He’s basically a slightly younger Kyle Lowry, smart defender, good 3 point threat, can create in the half court, and is a good locker room guy

 

If Nunn can't play 2 seasons in a row than he was grossly misdiagnosed. We should get a 6 million dollar injured player exception or something.

 

SMH at the idea of getting a injured player exception for a guy with a bone bruise. I wish the front office would realize that most of these Klutch signings actually are bad signings lol

 

That’s confusing to me. I had heard it framed as if the Pacers wanted to dump Theis on us to clear money. But Theis has a team option at the end of his deal (likely will be declined), THT has a player option at the end of the deal (likely will be picked up).

So adding the THT/Theis piece doesn’t make sense, they essentially have the same contracts with THT making slightly more. The inclusion of these players would likely end up costing Indiana even more. I guess Indiana must have just been high on THT as a player.

But if that’s where negotiations last left off, it doesn’t feel like the teams are THAT far off. The core of that trade is still Russ+2 FRP’s for Hield and Turner, I would be surprised if Indiana would let Theis and THT be dealbreakers (unless they weren’t negotiating in good faith to begin with).

While I like the idea of the NY/Utah trade if it only requires one FRP, I think my preference would still be the Indiana trade even if it costs 2 FRP’s.

Just think Hield and Turner gives us a higher ceiling. We’d lack the wing depth we’d get from the Utah deal, but those wings are mediocre defenders. I think a Turner/AD duo has the potential to be so special on defense that our lack of traditional wings wouldn’t be as big a problem.

 

For what it’s worth, Lebron’s friend Cuffs has been hyping up Reddish.

 

I don't care if it's an ingrown toe nail. If you can't play 2 seasons straight because of it, there should be an injury exception for it.

 

Buddy Hield can't guard a parked car though, there is a reason teams have looked to move on from him 3 years in a row. He is not the one asking to be traded. Turner is worth a pick..he is within reach with Beverley, Gabriel and 1 FRP. We don't have to take Buddy Hield at all.

 

i'm down to facilitate the utah/ny deal if we bring in reddish and don't give up more than one 1st. lots of possible combinations there.

 

The Pacers have discussed trades for Myles Turner, for 3 seasons in a row but he keeps getting injured. I simply don't understand why he can't be traded unless he's attached to Buddy Hield.

 

Bogdanovic and Fournier are pretty bad defenders too, and that trade doesn’t bolster the interior defense to make up for our weak perimeter defense the way the Indiana trade would.

You are right that the Pacers probably WOULD be interested in a smaller expiring contract and an unprotected first for just Turner.

But (a) I don’t think we can flip Beverly so soon (and even if we could, we wouldn’t), and (b) I think we recognize how bad a fit Russ is and so our ideal objective is to use the pick to get back good players AND dump Russ. If we use a FRP in another deal, I think that would mean pretty much accepting that Russ is likely here to stay through the season.

Also have no clue what you’re suggesting with Myles Bridges. That is problematic on all sorts of levels.

 

if bogdanovic and fournier are the big offseason acquisitions, i won't even bother watching a game this coming season

 

I’d be okay with Picnus’s deal. Gives us wings, shooters, and a young prospect in Reddish.

 

No way we can bring in Bridges even if we wanted to (which I don’t).

I do hope we’ve been engaging the Hornets on some kind of possible deal as they are one of the few teams that might just make a straight up trade with us.