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  1. Johgnyb77

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    Isn’t magic on JeanieS team ?
     
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    I couldn’t care less what they do.
     
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    We just won a NBA Championship two seasons ago. The world is not about to end folks. We had some bad luck with the injuries, hopefully it's some other team's turn on that front. I rather be optimistic than pessimistic...that's an energy draining ,downer , loser , outlook as a fan IMO.
     
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    oh, i assumed people were joking with the doom takes there.

    the only way the TPE could have been used was to absorb a slightly above minimum deal which would then be used as trade ballast later (like if say, we wanted to keep stan and wenyen but were going to need another salary to trade). but that would have taken foresight and could have been a big waste of time and money, too.

    it's just not a thing at all.
     
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    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think this is a big issue, really. Russ in training camp is. ;)
     
  6. FrontOfJersey22

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    I think someone who consistently refuses to acknowledge reality and glosses over EVERYTHING with “injuries” is even more tiresome.
    Rob is not good at his job. We, as being long time fans of our beloved Lakers, will continue to call him out on each and every blunder. We hold this right.
    With just the most obvious choices made correctly, this team could have been much more enjoyable to watch following the Bubble Run.
    Every single team, every single year, since the very first NBA season has had to deal with injuries. It’s a part of the game. This is why you have someone smart, properly build a team, and keep it together, with depth.
    I have become convinced that it was Kobe who told his good buddy Rob who to go after during his only successful run. Everything he’s done since then, by using his own brain, has produced the exact opposite results.
    It’s not currently “doomsday.” It will, however, take Jeanie realizing that Rob isn’t getting the job done get us to the point where we can root for a proper contender again.
    That’s my OPINION.
    It isn’t right, nor wrong.
     
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    I wonder how we will speak about Rob if he turns this around, moves Russ, gets the pieces, we luck out, stay healthy and pull a chip. Then what will we say? Not singling anyone here, I mean all of us. Is Rob a great GM then, 2 championships and 2 down years? Or has he just been riding the Bron gravy train?
     
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    I would say: “Rob failed upwards into success”
     
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    i thought he was bad with magic, very good year 1 post-magic, then terrible after that. if he navigates out of the russ debacle with minimal scarring, i'm fine with giving him a chance to enhance his legacy here.

    i don't love the bev move on its own, but i'm willing to wait to see what happens with russ. if we john wall him, fire rob. i've outlined tons of things that i would like to see, and i've been encouraged by the fact that we haven't made a bad russ deal yet.
     
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    narratives can change easily with success but opposite can easily change perception quickly
     
  11. FrontOfJersey22

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    I think if he pulls off a deal for Buddy and Turner for Brick without giving up both firsts AND Austin, he gets some flowers. However, I don’t think we become a contender after this. I could be wrong.
     
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    You talk too much for someone who doesn't know (bleep).
     
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    Why don’t you go bleep to self buddy
     
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    Said the moron who thinks earth flat
     
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    Russ + 1 FRP for Bojan/Beasley/Reddish

    OR

    Russ + 2 FRP for Turner/Hield

    We should not be giving up 2 FRP's in the Utah/NYK deal....but something tells me we probably will end up doing exactly that and probably dumping Austin Reeves too. Because if there's one thing we've all done...it's overestimate Rob's leverage in any deal because he acts like he has alllll this leverage and then when it comes time to make a deal...he capitulates aggressively and bends the knee.
     
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    After all the blowback the FO got over losing a good defender and smart playing “glue guy” in AC I don’t understand this rash of posts lately expecting them to repeat the same eff up with the good defending smart playing and ultimately possibly better offensive player in Reaves. Who’s also a bit taller than AC.
     
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    Wouldn’t change my opinion. This is a super poorly built roster. It seems to have been put together with the assumption that we’d always be getting Kyrie and maybe Harris or another shooter in another trade. The pieces added do not work with Russ, at all, on paper we are like THE worst 3 point shooting team in the league. Walker was our mini MLE and he can’t play with Russ, they’re like the same guy, that’s not a good signing big picture, only maybe in a vacuum. He does things I don’t get, he overcorrects, he loses every trade. Even if he does “clean up this mess”, it’s a mess HE created and it cost us 3 solid mid contract players, made us a 3 star and all minimums roster. Even before Russ his plan wasn’t great of Hield for Kuz and Trez, it’s super uncreative as Hield is his former client, he’s been so much about Klutch, former Lakers, or former clients, the lack of creativity is bad. He’s just not good, and it goes back to us as a FO being too insular, not looking to get the best of the best but instead just hiring a first time guy who was close to the “family”.
     
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    Teams get accolades when they succeed and criticized when they fail.

    just the nature of sports.

    We have little choice other than hoping Rob turns out good as we’re not firing him anytime soon.
     
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    i'm not as down as you, but it's hard to argue with most of it. i don't think he lost the AD deal (we had no business even being in it, and he closed it), nor schroder deal. we lost ALL the magic trades, and we lost the beverley trade. we obviously lost the russ trade, which is one of the worst since billy king walked the earth, but i still blame lebron/AD/jeanie as much or more than rob. you're correct that rob's plan wasn't much better, but we wouldn't be in this position had he been allowed to do his job.

    so let's see what he does with russ, and then he has the rest of the season to make moves around the margins. if we're still in this boat next year, he's gone.

    unfortunately, we'll still be rambii'd.
     
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    Completely agree. If he turns it around then great, but the criticisms of him at this point are valid.
     
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