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  1. Alcindor

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    Russ will cost FRP(s) no matter what. He was a slip-up and you have to pay for a slip-up. Suffer through his play, take back worse contracts, or help someone with financial relief and offload some great player(s) from them so they can rebuild by sweetening the deal with picks. GMs have to wait until '17-'19 to benefit so it isn't exactly on all of their Christmas lists to get Laker picks 5-7 years in the future to make their tenure as GM look good. It's unlikely Rob gets Turner/Hield without 2 FRPs but if a 3rd team like the Knicks is involved he may get a role player like a Fournier in the deal.
     
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    Hang on. Pat Bev for "marginal talent of the future" ain't Moz/Deng for a bulk of our cap space. It is weighted for us due to our immediate needs so it feels good for us. And let's not forget Rob cleaned up that Moz/Deng mess. He made the sub-optimal decision already, a huge one, Westbrook. Quite possibly not even his own decision but he's eating it and taking the hit now isn't he? Now we are seeing if he can repair/clean up/cope with that "decision" (hmmm choice of words) and keep us in the big game. Wouldn't write big Rob off just yet, crafty guy, who doesn't show his hand, poker face to a tee, some more dealing to be done. Besides Jeanie recently backed up his job this seems like premature speculation (yes I got the rhyme) at this point.
     
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    I hate Ainge so much. Do not give him what he wants

     
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    (Note - getting a sensitive media warning for some reason. The media here is just screen shots of the article.
     
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    Fournier and Bogdanovic? Pass
     
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    Depends on what comes back. Indy wants the two as well. Not so secret report out that Pelinka told Lebron he’d be willing to use both picks now to improve the team.

    I’d like to get three usable starting level players back if we do. What about Conley, Bogdanovic and Reddish?
     
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    Yeah those are the players to get from any move involving NY and Utah.

    I'd definitely pass if its like Fournier, JC, Gay, or Beasley.
     
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    I mentioned a few days ago:

    Lakers get: Beverly/Bojan/Beasley/Reddish/Rose

    Jazz get: Grimes/Toppin/THT/Wenyan/ 2023 Knicks 1st/2025 Knicks 1st/2027 Knicks 1st/ 2029 Knicks 1st/ 2027 Lakers 1st.

    Knicks get: Mitchell

    Sounds like Ainge wants to obtain 6 picks in the trade. Sounds like him. I understand why Lakers would be hesitant to do this with both picks, because the picks could be flipped with some of these players later to better consolidate the roster, etc. But at the end of the day, I would part with the picks and maybe try to get back some more value. Maybe some 2nd round picks coming our way, or we get back a young player like Grimes? It's a good win now haul. Bojan and Beasley are two of the most elite corner three point shooters in the league (in terms of both accuracy and volume). Beverly is an excellent corner three point shooter for a PG. Reddish is a better 3 and D player than anybody that we have on our roster, besides Beverly. Rose is not trash. He is still a very serviceable back up/ starter level PG that could create. All of these guys are expiring, so it gives us the flexibility that we want. We likely end up with the full mid level next season too, where we could get another asset. This would be an excellent win/now trade in my opinion. This trade could be made official on September 6th. Lakers probably include Wenyan in the second deal.
     
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    There’s very little imo that’s worth 2 first round picks from either of these teams. Multiple first round picks are reserved for all star level players, especially when they could be top 5-10 picks by that time. They’re not for throwing away to get off a mistake you made to save your a**, or to make some mediocre move to appease LeBron. He signed the extension, he’s here no matter what, if a 2 1sts deal doesn’t put us into contention it shouldn’t be made. Beverly didn’t even cost a single pick, I don’t know why these other super overrated pieces should cost multiple firsts.
     
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    Original trade actually had both Stanley had Wenyan going out.
     
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    I see it a little differently. I’d be willing to deal the picks for the right return. Nothing will quite equal the Kyrie Curry/and or Harris opportunity but since it’s no longer possible I’m interested in the second best scenario. To me 2 picks is too much for Hield and Turner but a Conley, Bogdanovic Reddish return works. That’s a great lineup to go with Lebron AD and our other adds. Puts Beverly at backup PG, gives us shooting/scoring and some length at wing with Reddish. Reaves is still here, Nunn might actually play lol, JTA, Walker, Brown for backups, Jones, Bryant and possibly Huff at center. I really think Bogdanovic would work well with Lebron and AD.
     
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    If Ainge wants it, we've already shown we'll give it to him. Proved that with SJ. We're about to get bent over the barrel by DA... again.
     
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    Lakers probably prefer Rose over Conley, since he is a straight up expiring. Plus, it's more of a clean trade that way. Taking on Conley makes it where Lakers take on too much salary. Its doable though. Nunn would likely be included in this scenario. Quickly also added in for salary purposes. Rose goes to Utah. This is a more favorable return for Utah, which could lead us to maybe not having to give up the second 1st. Conley's skillset is a better fit for us than Rose.
     
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    Lol, no Marc, it doesn’t, that’s a horrible f****** trade

     
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    Here's the full reports from Stein on all things Lakers...

    If DS is still in play, then Nunn is gone.

    Hopefully this Utah and NY 3 team talk is to pressure Indy. I only want that deal since it's already established that DA will come out on top of a deal with Rob AND the parameters of an Indy deal are fairly established and can't fluctuate that much. There are too many variables and ways for Rob to get destroyed by both NY and Utah.
     
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    Immanuel Quickly fits the mold of the type of PG that is successful playing with Lebron.
     
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    Meh...rock and roll as is...there will be a boatload of trade possibilities by February.
     
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    Another option could be us getting Bojan/Beasley/Fournier/Reddish/Quickly. Nunn would have to go to New York for salary purposes. We more than address our need for shooting with this deal. There are a plethora of possibilities with Jazz/Knicks.
     
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    Seems to me like the media is just trying to generate clicks. My read is that if LAL is involved in the Mitchell trade, it'll be in an ancillary capacity such that they can pick up 1-2 role players (I know I am just parroting the media here, but just saying what I was told).

    Pelinka is still trying to get the deal done with Indiana, but they aren't very interested at this point. Indiana is hesitant to part with Turner and doesn't seem to be serious about negotiating. Latest ask was for Westbrook, Nunn, Reaves, and 2 FRPs (don't quote me on the specifics, not a cap expert.... but you get the point).

    Folks, this is looking tough at the moment. But I will say it is always the darkest before dawn, and we've been here many times before only to come out champions on the other side!!!
     
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