2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

I don’t like the timing of that tweet.

 

neither did Klutch

 

I miss KB and Dr. Buss...

 

i don't like anything about this. i won't be miserable if we can't get the kyrie deal done. if they're really asking for 2 unprotected picks and to eat 20 million in salary for a guy they actively want to get rid of, they should kick rocks. 1 pick OR we take harris. i'm sorry you gutted your team for kyrie and got bitten. we did something similar for russ. we can both move on next year. i'm sorry that you compounded it by alienating your best player and see how you're trying to weaponize that against us in this instance. but we don't have to be you.

what i don't like about the tweet is that signifies (i think) that once again, there is strife within the organization regarding charting a path forward. feels like management doesn't want to get fleeced in a kyrie deal, and lebron (again) wants them to do anything to get it done. i thought we were done with this at the deadline. wouldn't surprise me if we're thinking about resetting some stuff of our own...


edit: btw, we're all waxing nostalgic about kobe, but he a) ran shaq out of town, b) very publicly demanded a trade, and c) demanded we ship valuable assets off at lower than their value on at least one if not more than one occasion.

the answer isn't to have different players calling shots for management. it's not having players (or coaches!) call shots for management.

 

Amen to that.

 

Lol. True but for once I think I’m with them.

 

Your edit covered what I was going to add. I love Kobe but we have to be real here. He publicly demanded changes and threatened to leave. Players do these sorts of things. Strong leadership gets them on board instead of alienating them.

Half the team is Klutch at this point. We’ve made our bed with that whole crew at this point. I don’t get tweeting something that could easily be interpreted as shots at people even if some feel it wasn’t.

 

Oh and I suppose since I think we need true NBA caliber players and any semblance of depth we can build, the thought of bringing in Harris doesn’t bother me. I get the tax implications and it’s not my money but unless he’s cooked medically (which if that’s the case just leak it through Chris Haynes) I think he can help a team that still lacks shooting.

There was never going to be an easy way out of the mess we made with the Russ trade. I wouldn’t give up everything but I don’t know that I’d let Harris vs Curry stop the deal if everything else lines up.

 

this is way i said i'm wondering if we're considering unmaking the bed. klutch has been, overall, more good than bad for us, but at some point, it might start turning.

 

me too. but i think they're asking for all the picks with limited protections, too. that was a no-go for me with or without harris or curry (i prefer harris to curry, as if harris is healthy, he's a decent defender while curry is a parking cone).

but we let caruso walk for nothing, so obviously finances are QUITE important to ownership. i mean, that was awful, and they basically did it without any sweat.

to me, jeanie's tweet reads like someone who is hurt that her partner (lebron in this case) doesn't understand/appreciate her side of the business.

anyway, we'll eventually hear what was actually being offered/discussed and can make a determination about who's being unreasonable. if bkn is asking for everything (we take harris and give them 2 unprotected 1sts). and that's really bad, imo. i know we all hate russ as a basketball player, but kyrie is a HUGE risk. HUGE. just on his own. it's why nobody wants to trade for him. it's not just his interest in playing here--which could change in a matter of weeks, mind you (this is why nobody wants him--well, that and he, like durant, makes AD look like an iron man).

if rob can get hield and turner or deals like that, i'd rather go that route. hence me not freaking out about the deal falling apart. i'm more worried if i read that we sold the farm for one year of kyrie.

 

Yeah. I gotta think we are second guessing ourselves which is understandable given that we seem to completely rely on them. But keep those thoughts internal you know.

 

I agree and don’t get me wrong. I’ve still got concerns on Kyrie. I suppose it would help if I believed the Indiana deal was real. I’d think we would’ve pivoted by now if we were had another viable option.

Given how disastrous last year I wouldn’t let LeBron /Klutch force me into a bad move.

I just wouldn’t tweet about those internal arguments. Just can’t think of a single way it actually helps.

 

right. that was my first comment: the tweet means there are internal problems. that's bad.

re: indy, it's possibly fake from our side. or they're also demanding two unprotected picks, too.

i don't think we'd pivot until we felt we got a much better deal. my guess is the indy stuff is just smoke from rob letting bkn know that he's still talking about russ elsewhere and doesn't NEED them or even NEED to make a move. they NEED to make a move because they're the ones who have already let it slip that they have no intention of starting the season with kyrie (or kd, i guess) on the team. we didn't do that. we've signaled all the way down the line (except lebron, of course!) that we plan to start next year with russ.

 

Yeah, that's what I don't get. After not bending to Bron at the deadline it seemed like Rob and the front office finally made a stand and retook control. I get the Kyrie play where their interests align, but then to sign every Klutch player we could get our hands on doesn't make sense if you're trying ty distance yourself from Bron and Klutch. Whether we were doing a favor to them or vice versa, it still gives them majority control.

 

I don't know what she means, but I'm guessing about taking on Harris contract, paying more in luxury tax to do the deal. It sounds like good old fashion money on the line here and will it be worth it. From a fan I say yes do the deal lol. If it was my money, yes the stakes are much higher to say the least to make a decision. Jerry Buss was known as a risk taker, he became the best owner of sports by making bold business decisions.

 

Patience everyone! This may take some time. LAL trying their best to not get screwed and still find that third team. BKN is playing a bit of hardball on the peripherals, as expected.

The fact that LAL is really the only team in the running, and BKN’s negotiation style, means that there isn’t the same sense of urgency as compared to other deals. As per my previous post, LAL was trying to create some of that artificially with the Pacers leak.

 

I wonder if we can get in on a Raptors deal. They reportedly have the best package for KD and were one of the teams who really liked THT. Seems like a logical 3rd team.

 

Speaking of Toronto - I saw a tweet this morning reminding us that if the Raptors got KD and made the Finals we’d be without Kyrie for all the games in Canada since he’s not vaccinated