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  1. abeer3

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    this. again, it's what happened with paul. the cba should have closed this loophole but didn't.

    yeah, i think he's on borrowed time and really has been for a couple years. he's smart to parlay last year into a 3-year contract, but i don't want to be the team paying for those last two years. he many not make it through the next one, tbh.
     
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    With our luck, Tucker would trip getting off the plane and be out the whole season if we signed him.
     
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    I agree only because of the number of holes and needs on our team. If you have a full squad but want a toughness, vet boost/culture enhancer who can D and hit the corner 3 as a PF or small ball 5 then he's a great fit. We need a starting SF who plays tough D and has a respectable 3 ball. Then 10 other things, but that's first and foremost.

    I think the Bucks missed him this postseason and he was a great fit for Miami, which is why I don't see him leaving (+ $ reasons). But he's the exact type who will be linked to us for clicks.
     
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    Even with the latest Beal/Kyrie rumours, my ideal summer would be if we can still somehow get Brogdon/Hield for Westbrook.

    Brogdon is a really good fit with AD and Lebron, he just needs to stay healthy. Hield fills a need and can be a capable starting shooting guard. It’ll ease the pain of not being able to retain Malik Monk.

    Lastly if we can get Otto Porter Jr with our MLE, and just do what we can to fill the roster with vet minimums but take on younger players with upside to be really good as role players instead of aging former stars….

    if all that happens we might surprise people, it’s just all about health.
     
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    I fear that a team built around AD and Kyrie for the next four years is just going to involve one of them being injured everytime the playoffs come around.

    That’s if AD gets his head focused again and that’s if Kyrie doesn’t retire next week.
     
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    Lebron might be the only person that could salvage Kyrie, if he walks away from Brooklyn. He needs an Alpha to follow IMO, 2 years from now when Lebron retires, would AD be that guy? Idk.. but he would still be a lot more valuable than a Brogdan/Hield or Hayward/Rozier. I most definitely understand your point about the injuries though. However it's the same crapshoot with every trade idea that I've seen for Westbrook. Aim high first, that's my take.
     
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    Might be desperate, but I'd take Kyrie. Not saying I'd give up multiple assets for him though.
     
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    I don't understand the hopes for Kyrie. He has shown over and over again that he is not reliable or loyal to anything other than his whims.

    I'm from Ohio. Their duo meant a lot to us and sometimes I think I'd love to see it again. But the reality is, Kyrie proved who he is to multiple teams multiple times; why even entertain offering him the chance to do it to us after such a rough couple of years?
     
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    And to add to that, Kyrie, Harden, Durant and minimums couldn’t get along or get it done in the EAST. Why would we think Kyrie, 38 year old LeBron, and AD plus minimums could get it done in the West? Every team in the playoffs was deep, that’s why they succeeded, we need depth around LeBron and AD to keep them healthy and not have to carry us so much.
     
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    The East is stronger than the West nowadays
     
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    Plus, those 3 (Harden, Kyrie, Irving) didn't fit and they had a ton of problems. When they started playing together they were unstoppable and Harden wasn't there in postseason.

    LeBron played with Kyrie, knows him and "gave" him his best years.

    It's a new act of Cleveland's big 3 with AD being way better than Love (although LeBron is older). That puts us immediately as contenders.

    I agree that giving 4y to Kyrie is frightening and makes me have serious doubts about it. But the ceiling is huge
     
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    I use to really like Brogdon, I thought he was primed to break out in Milwaukee and be an efficient third option at 18/8 who shot close to 50/40/90. If you look at the year we landed AD I was calling for us to go for Brogdon instead of Kawhi. I thought he was a perfect running mate for Lebron and AD.

    Then he got to the pacers and his playmaking didn’t scale with the bigger role, his turnovers went up, while his shooting regressed. And he lost the lateral quickness he had at his size that made him a decent defender, so he is kind of a negative on defence too when he graded positively there during his time at the bucks.

    I mean I still like him and 10m per. But I think he looks for another long term contract around the 20m plus range and for 3-4 years. And with his injury history it’s just not worth it.

    If we could get Turner with him, I’d be keen though.
     
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    I think in Indiana he was asked to run the show and that's too much for him. In Milwaukee he wasn't asked to do so much and took advantage of the attention on Giannis and Middleton.
    He would be an awesome fit to LeBron and AD on that sense. His injuries are the only downside, but I don't know the full story about him
     
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    We literally just watched our team go up in flames because of sinking too much into 3 stars, one of them being one who doesn’t listen to anyone around him and does what he likes, and now you guys want to do that again with a new shiny star lol. Kyrie is not reliable, he does whatever crazy thing he feels like that week, basketball is a hobby to him. Give me the Hornets deal, any of them, just no please god no to Kyrie. If it happens, when it blows up and doesn’t work remember this post.
     
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    I only do the deal if zero multi player packages aren't available. And even then, no additional assets, and I want every year of his deal to be a team option. Cause as you said, he's as volatile as they come.

    Now if he wants to continue in Kyrie fashion and be unpredictable, he should opt out and take our mini mid level. If anyone was crazy enough to do that, it's Kyrie. Then we can still trade away
    Russ for parts and end up with a few players.
     
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    kinda want the clippers to give up depth for kyrie, have the press slobber, us pick up rozier and hayward and be better than them.
     
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    People not wanting Kyrie fail to realize this deal would already be a miracle given our situation with Westbrook and almost zero assets.

    It's either going to be some deal like that for a low value disgruntled star, or we take on terrible contracts, or I dont see how it's possible to build a competitive team for Lebron's final year(s)
     
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    the more i think about it, the more taking on kyrie at any price is basically just repeating mistakes. again, let the knicks or clippers do that. let's try to convert russ into 2-3 players, at least two of which we can put on the court.
     
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