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Yeah, that sucks for a team like us this year

 

Some Jake Fischer rumors with B/R

HAWKS

That's a terrible deal for the Hawks. 1) Gobert is one of the most overrated/overpaid bigs in the entire league. 2) that's overpaying. It's either Capela, Huerter, + 16 OR Collins + Huerter. No way both bigs + the pick AND Huerter can possibly be the return.

You know... we have a backcourt mate readily available. Russ, THT, Nunn, protected picks for Capela, Gallo, and Bogdan works.

PACERS

We will take both, please and thank you. THT is "young talent" and is close with Halliburton. You know who's younger than THT?... future draft picks. And Russ certainly doesn't act his age, so there's that too.

 

we need to get in on capela if atlanta moves him in a gobert deal, imo. he went from overrated to underrated pretty quickly.

i'm actually not sure why they think they need to upgrade there. if they want to build a team around young, they better get nothing but defenders, because young's garbage there. and upgrading at one position isn't the answer. nobody (including ATL's management) wants this opinion, but i think atlanta should trade young while his value is high.

 

Wonder if Indy would do THT + 1st for Turner or Nunn, THT + 1st?

 

Wasn’t there something last week about Indy keeping Turner?

 

The report from Stein (over the weekend, I think) was they were going to keep him from now... but he might move at the deadline. But even that stance is wildly different from what we've been hearing since the Kings trade went down. I think they're listening but not actively shopping today. They'll see how they all mesh and if they aren't happy with what they see, they'll move his ending contract at the deadline... unless someone comes up with a overwhelming offer before then.

The good: it's not a no. Now does THT + Nunn + picks move the needle for them? Does a larger deal that includes Russ and gets them off bad money entice them more or less?

 

turner would be a great addition, but do we really need another injury prone big man?

 

Folks are sleeping on this guy. I'd rather have him over Turner right now. THT and a 1st round pick..let's do it. I think he'd fit great next to AD. Fill in for him at 5 when needed too.

 

Not going to lie, the highlights look pretty great. He runs the floor really well, he can put the ball on the floor and spots up from the 3. He would play nicely off AD and would be great when AD is injured. Not sure how he is defensively?

But what would he cost? THT and a 1st?

 

wood's a minus defender and sort of has the hallmarks of a box score allstar who doesn't help you win. that said, he's obviously the better current fit with our team and likely the better overall prospect (though he is 5 years older than THT...).

i think it's moot, anyway, as houston was already driving a stupid price in the wall/westbrook scenario, so i don't see how they accept THT/nunn/1st.

 

Here's the difference: Turner is a top 5 defensive big, he's a DPOY contender, and a two way big. He's had success on a team that's been good enough. Wood isn't good on D, has only been on awful teams, and there are legit IQ/ character concerns.

It's not even close for me, even with the foot injury.

 

yeah, i'd pick turner, too. it's possible wood has just been in bad situations and can grow out of that like webber or sheed did. but i feel better with someone who has already proven to be a useful part of a winner. plus--is our situation the one in which you'd expect a guy with some character concerns to flourish?

 

Yeah, Wood was even benched at times for overproducing. But his characters is an issue for me. Would still get him if we could. Would also prefer Turner but either one would be perfect with AD.
I can't see how could we get both though, if they're available there's teams with much better packages

Btw, what do you think about Oladipo? Do you think our MLE would get him? Would you give it to him?
It would be a massive risk but it might be the only way to lure him and the ceiling is huge. I don't think he would have an opportunity to be so relevant in other respectable team so he could play for a bigger contract and be convinced to accept this year with us. His health is a concern, but he looked in good shape with the Heat, but they are so stacked that he didn't had more time.
His fit in our team would be so good that I would do it

 

I'm not complaining if we somehow landed Myles at all, I beat the drum on him next to AD for a couple of years. He's been hurt for the last couple of seasons too tho. At 2.3 blocks a game last season, Turner is absolutely the better defensive player, but looking at them head to head over the last two seasons, I don't think there is some huge gap at all. https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm...layer_id2=turnemy01&p2yrfrom=2021&p2yrto=2022

Wood needs to tighten up on those FT's, but as far as fit, availability, value and realistic chance at a trade involving THT and a pick. I think Wood is the more realistic option. I believe the Mavs have a better shot at Turner than we do, they could snag Turner and Brogdon with a package around Brunson and a 1st rd pick probably. Wood has only gotten some serious PT over the last 3 seasons in Detroit and Houston, those teams were bad, I'm not holding that against him, he produced when given the opportunity. The character stuff...I don't see that as a big issue with this HC, and Lebron and AD. Sometimes a better environment makes all the difference in that regard.

 

The only difference to me is the Wall for Russ swap, they wanted a 1st rd pick for Wood all along and still do. I still say that the idea that they wanted a 1st rd pick just to swap Russ for Wall was ridiculous. Honestly I think Wood is the guy we acquired about, but the Wall for Westbrook story gets all the headlines. I can't blame the Rockets for trying. I also don't punish guys for being on a bad team, AD didn't win in New Orleans without having some better teammates. He's no AD but he's a big upgrade and better fit than Kuz. That 13 million dollar salary is also very workable, given our current salary constraints as well. I'd rather keep Nunn, but I'd throw him in too if we got their 2nd rd pick back in the upcoming draft.

 

THT and a 1st rd pick would be the trade for me. I think playing next to AD and for Ham would improve his team defense. Going up against Anthony in practice and being able to see how AD approaches D can improve his individual defense too.

 

THT and a 1st isn't enough cash, nor do i think houston bites on it.



how about this, though?! houston now owns two ridiculous expirings. they can buy both out or keep one for trade fodder later. they can tank hard and clear serious cash off the books for the following two years.

we get a starting center, a bench scorer, and an end of bench wing defender. nunn becomes the starting pg, and we still have the mini mle to bring in another wing.

 

How realistic is Mo Bamba as a taxpayer mle target? I like the talk of a young athletic big who can shoot 3s.
Thomas Bryant may be an attainable target…

Turner is by far the best option here if we could trade for him, and Wood is nice too.

Trading THT, Nunn, and possibly the 1st for some young, athletic 3/D wings would be nice.

 

I'd do that trade but the Rockets taking on two 47 million dollar contracts? I just don't see it happening. Tucker makes 10 million, Wood 13, the value of the 1st rd pick should make that swap an easy one.

 

it's simply not possible due to the cba. the future first carries no salary value in trade. wood makes more than 25% more than THT. we'd have to include gabriel or johnson. maybe gabriel's expendable, but then we're looking for another body.