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Yes please!

 

Maybe we should have kept Ingram?

 

i'll take the title

 

I’m starting to question if this formula is really the right way to go.

First of all, did we just catch lightning in a bottle in the bubble? Can we really assume we’ll have AD and Lebron healthy for a full playoff run ever again?

Secondly, how much did teams improve since then? I think the Bucks, Nets, Suns, Warriors, 76ers are all better then they were then. We’re just lucky the clips main guys can’t get healthy because they’re supporting cast would just overwhelm us.

Not to mention how much better individually Jokic, Giannis and Luka are. I’m not sure Lebron has anything for those guys over a full series.

AD if healthy can hold up his end of the bargain. But some of you are acting like this is Lebron from 3 years ago. It’s not. Relying on him to carry the offence for a whole playoff is not going to work anymore.

 

I actually think Lebron can basically carry us offensively, heck he had a great offensive year this season. I think he can do that for a couple of more years. It's the defensive side where his age is showing. He can still play D for short periods of time, if he can play limited minutes towards the end of the regular season, then he might be able to capture some of his youthful D in needed spots during the playoffs. Really, at this point in his career, it would be nice if we had solid defensive players who could cover him a bit.

 

I get your point of view, except I saw too many times this year Lebron just run out of steam in the fourth when it counted. Expecting him to log 36-40 mins while carrying the offence is too much. The guy is going to be 38 next season after all and I just don’t think he has it in him.

I’d rather try to take some of the scoring pressure off of him and get him easier looks while we’re at it. Of course I’m not against having good defensive wings - just not at the total expense of the offence.

 

Definitely. I flip each one of them for good young players and assets along with expiring contracts. We have some decent building blocks already, and I think we could replenish the cupboard quickly, make the playoffs, have a nice team to root for, and the scouting department can do what they do best.

 

This plan sucks

 

This league is all about stars man (real stars... not Derozan's of the league)and I rather win a chip and suck for 7-8 years than be like utah, pacers and so on...
I want Jokic and Luka, let them white boys bring a trophy to LA

 

rozier's a 20/4/4 guy who doesn't need the ball (but can handle it competently) and shoots near 40% from three. he's not a great defender, but he's not awful. and he's been a net positive every year since his rookie year. he'll be overpaid the last two years of his deal, but he becomes tradeable then.

i'm not going back into russ, but rozier kicked his a** this past year by pretty much all measures.

i hope charlotte puts as much weight on a single game as fans and the press have. we might get some picks!

if that's truly the belief, we should trade them both, right? because if we just expect they're not going to be there, that's a bad plan.

i'd argue suns and sixers are due for injuries to chronically injured and, in cp's case, very old stars. maybe warriors, too. i don't know. none of those teams scare me that much, save for maybe a theoretically healthy nets or clippers team. but again, same issue. every one of those teams save milwaukee is hoping their oft-injured stars don't get injured. just like us.

can't stress enough how dead in the water the suns were before AD got hurt last year. people act like that wasn't happening. it's part of why phx has such an erection for us, imo.

jokic and giannis and luka have all been this good for a couple years or more, and none of them have gotten anywhere except giannis (who benefited massively from opposing teams' injuries, too). look at dallas and denver's rosters outside their big guns. just not fearsome.

i agree. but russ isn't that guy. at all. in fact, i'd find that terrifying after seeing it up close. and no, a non-vogel will not fix that. that's been russ at every recent stop.

 

Could of had both

 

Since we would be working with Mitch, I don’t necessarily think the Hornets would be trying to fleece us.

That said, it’s honestly Rob’s job go out and get us a good deal here. If a team wants multiple picks and tries to fleece us then hang up.

 

you think we win that ring with ingram instead of AD?

um, not a chance.

 

this is why the non-moves at the deadline encouraged me. seemed like rob was thinking longer-term and must have had upper management's blessing to resist lebron's pressure. i think that bodes well for summer negotiations.

 

I never said it was a GOOD plan haha, but that's the level of dislike I have for who/what we have going on right now.

 

Likely not the Covid year, but Ingram, AD, and LeBron might have done damage last year and into the future …..Chess not Checkers

 

We’d have been able to convince LeBron and Klutch (which would have HAD to be done …. realistically) to abandon the timetable and plan put into motion for one more year and let him be traded to the C Bags or some other good team and hope he didn’t come to like it and decide to stay? Sure … that was going to work.

 

yeah I dont think NO would have taken Kuz instead of BI

also BI didn't really show a great fit playing with Lebron in the season they played together.

 

not really

ingram was the main piece in the AD trade. they wouldn't have accepted lonzo, hart, and kuzma.

if they don't trade for AD, then you just assume he would have signed with the lakers in FA which there's no way of saying he would have for sure

and then you have to assume they would've had enough cash for lebron, AD, and ingram AND to surround them with the depth they had in 19-20

so yeah, not likely at all that the lakers could have had AD and BI AND still won the 2020 title