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    I doubt any blockbuster moves are coming. Lebron and AD aren't going anywhere, and while Russ has a huge expiring deal, he gets to pan a deal by declaring that he has no interest in signing at the hypothetical trade destination. So we are basically left with some other team's salary dump. That's not necessarily some kind of great deal. James and Westbrook represent over 70 million dollars coming off the books after next season. That's a hell of a lot of cap space to play with in 23. I wouldn't be shocked if all we did was move Tucker,(maybe Nunn) and possibly some later pick for a decent young big man. Replace Baze, Ariza,Duke,Avery and Dwight with younger guys at their positions and ride it out. Some folks will kick and scream but if the big guns avoid the injury bug, we'd still be a contender.
     
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    Spurs were waaaay ahead of the curve on the international scouting. They dominated the market for awhile and had cost controlled assets in both rounds, sprinkle in a decent developmental staff and you're going to kill it.

    Not only did management stay out of the way, they valued and respected the coach. Lakers have not done that since Phil walked out that door (even though we f***ed him too when he was willing to come back AGAIN). You cannot plug and play head coaches and expect continued success. The only time I can think of when you had a team burn through coaches on the past 4 decades and still succeed at the ultimate level was in Cleveland when Bron was the best player in the game and could do everything himself. That's an anomaly and for the life of me I can't understand how our organization can be so f***ing dumb they can't look at a wiki page and see that within 30 seconds.
     
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    Well..We've had 1 good season in the last 10 years. Bad coaching, poor talent, bad management, bad luck..take your pick.
     
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    Ownership is responsible for management, who's responsible for both hiring a coach and acquiring talent. Every team faces their share of good and bad luck. So the constant is upper management and their calls. This is why I have limited belief in our potential as long as Jeanie refuses to sell to a billionaire (or billionaire group). A team in f***ing Wisconsin is doing big business while we're ran like the family corner drug store in Buford Wyoming (smallest town in the US).
     
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    #freeJimbo!!!
     
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    yeah, the mom and pop business model is just not cutting it. again, the rambii are the most obvious symptom, but giving magic actual responsibilities is another thing that like, nobody else in the league would do. filtering down from that, we get bad panic trades, forcing assistants on coaches, and in general just tons of cartoonish overcorrection from past mistakes.

    busses either have to sell or bring in a legit, outside president of operations who gets full control. otherwise, we'll continue to flounder, imo. too many short order cooks in a what's supposed to be a gourmet restaurant.
     
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    Excuse me can you elaborate on what magic was talking about on ESPN yesterday. What happened with derozan. ?
     
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    No mention that Derozen would have had to take a 20.61 million dollar pay cut to come to LA on his own. No mention that Pop would have rather cut his throat or cut the Lakers throat before helping the Lakers in a trade? Can someone confirm the Spurs were gonna make that trade? I'd like to know since I haven't seen s*** anywhere even though I googled the hell out of it for 6 months.

    Can someone please enlighten me on why I feel like I'm the only one who pays attention to the common sense details even though I'm not a salary cap guru? How do these guys who actually work in this not know s***? Makes you wonder why teams are run so badly, doesn't it.
     
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    derozan said something like he had a deal in place and "they" were ok with it. it wasn't clear if "they" were the spurs and if so, was it simply a salary agreement for s&t scenarios or a specific arrangement with the lakers.

    i really think a lot of guys who don't know the cba very well got together and drank wine or something. the things suggested are highly improbably if not totally impossible.

    to me, the only thing we know for sure is that we could have moved kuz/trez for hield. in that scenario, we keep kcp and likely keep caruso. if people want to argue that we should have done that, i'm listening. not sure it would have been WAY better, but i can agree that the deal our GM negotiated was probably superior to the one he ended up taking elsewhere.

    but the derozan thing was only slightly more real than the lillard thing, imo.
     
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    He isn't wrong. We have to get the top cleaned up before the Bron era is over otherwise attracting that next big fish is going to be difficult.
     
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    I'm not all that sure that Demar and Lebron would work either. Demar needs the ball a lot too. That hard cap situation, plus Pop helping out the Lakers in any way? It's sounds more like fantasy talk than anything.
     
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    also, the bulls are in 5th place. people need to relax on the derozan worship. he's kind of the same dude he's always been. good, not great.

    this is all aside from the point that there wasn't even an easy path to get him. i wanted to trade kuz and folks for him at the previous deadline, and that was our only shot.
     
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    We are at a point in the world where we need to question the news we read. It's not like it's some independence research. It's one of the sides pushing for a narrative, sometimes it's true, sometimes not.
    DeRozan and Wood deals don't make any sense and seem fake to me
     
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    Some folks just quit talking because they know common sense is not vogue right now. Better to be a sensationalist and tell everyone to shut up. I been around the block, s*** sucks right now, but it will get better. The Buss family did wonders for the Lakers and even for the NBA but they owners suffer from the same malady as most everyone else in the USA, they don't care about the past, don't know what is happening now and want what they want for the future, despite the fact it will probably be bad for them and the league. Thhhyggghhht!!! We will get over it all. I have hope that the Buss family will figure things out build a solid winning team but I have worries that they don't have the money to make it happen. If they totally F it all up, hey, I am moving anyhow, it will force me to become worldly. LOL. Jeannie would have to first hand fubar this team to smithereens in order to make me think she needed to go. Mistakes will be made, there will be good years and bad years. This year has been the most disappointing year I can remember. We had some years where our hearts were ripped apart but we were still a top 5 team in those years and typically came in second place. (F the green men). I don't know what is worse, being the best and losing to the C Bags or having three supposed superstars and not being good enough to even make the playoffs. Just fooling, the second one is way worse. Lebron, AD and Westbrook and we completely flop. With the payroll we have, this just sucks.
     
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    would bringing in derozan have meant keeping caruso and KCP and not signing a bunch of old shooters who can't defend? if not, derozan would not have been the key to this team becoming a contender

    because let's not forget that this team's main issue is defense and that was done away with to make room for russ and to double down on last season's shooting woes
     
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    Our backup and 3rd string Cs next year?

    I know we love some former Lakers, especially from the Bubble year. I'd be down for this one. McGee should be in the min range this summer and was a great bench/locker room fit. I think Dwight is about done, but if we want him back as the 15th man, I'm OK with it. Basically the role DJ got reduced to.
     
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    bron era brought us westbrick too
     
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    No doubt. My point is financially we won't be in a place to go franchise player shopping until he's gone. So we have until then to clean up our resumé for prospective targets.
     
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    He didn't make Lebron and AD sit out most of this season.
     
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    I like JaVale, but I would rather our scouting department find some springy youngster. This team needs to get much younger and I couldn’t care less about the LeGM window.
     
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