WMC 24-25: Free Threw It Away!

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  1. FrontOfJersey22

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    if they dont get in it would be a blessing, season is already quite embarrassing
     
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    I think at the very least that if we don’t get in then the onus falls squarely where it belongs: on the FO and ownership. They will ultimately bare responsibility as it should be. We deserve a better product and outcome. Missing the playin and playoffs entirely brings that point to the forefront. They screwed up and need to fix it.
     
  7. FrontOfJersey22

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    Whether we get in or not, the damage has been done and Jeanie REALLY needs to realize how we got here.
     
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    That's absolutely terrible. You can't win with that stat


    They're are 11-10 this season. Good to be 8 with some cushion.
    19-8 last season. Would be 3rd this year.

    They have to play, period
     
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    Good job guys.
     
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    karacha Moderator Staff Member

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    Bron = Lakers.
    Lakers = Bron.
    No Bron = No Lakers.






    I mean, they suck even with him playing, but this is beyond embarrassing.
     
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    7 games left guys

    we're almost through this
     
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    We are now 11th, same record as the Spurs. You could FEEL this coming wayyyyy back when we were blowing games to OKC and Houston, you can’t waste those opportunities with such a back heavy schedule. I do not see a point in AD or LeBron playing again this season, this s*** is a wrap.
     
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    Just coming to post this.
     
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    So nice to know that if you had to rerank trade value from this offseason it would go something like this?

    1) Caruso
    2) Kuzma

    Big dropoff
    3) Monk
    4) Trez

    Big dropoff
    5) Reaves? I mean look at his age/contract
    6) Russ
    7) KCP
    8) Stan (I'd rather have KCP and Stan but hey 23k career points)
    9) THT
    10) Gabriel

    Considering how the season went these ranking work. You lose 3 out of 4 best performers and gain almost all the bottom?
     
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    If the Mavs didn’t let their foot off the gas pedal, we’d have lost by 50.
     
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    1) Caruso 2) KCP 3) Kuz 4) reaves

    kcp is a starting 3+D player, he needs more respect than that bro
     
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    Reaves/Bradley/Baze, 47mins. 12FGA and 3pts combined.
    We don't play D so we need points, SMH
     
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    KCP is way higher than that. Trez is overrated there.

    I have:
    Caruso
    KCP
    Reaves
    Monk
    Kuz
    Trez
    Stan
    Westbrook
    THT
    Gabriel

    Considering you have Lebron and AD. If it's to a different team, would be different
     
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    what does trade value mean here? for example, i actually think reaves's value is huge (more than a 1st rounder, for trade purposes). he's proven to be a rotation-caliber player and is only 23. and you'd have his early bird rights, which pincus sort of poopoo-ed in his piece, but matters.

    by the same token, russ goes to dead last, because his salary is so huge that trades become difficult--teams almost HAVE to give up a better player than him just to get him aboard. he has negative trade value, which i can't say for anyone else. THT would be next, because he gets league average salary and performs under it.

    i'd put it at:

    caruso (team guy, glue guy, two ways, reasonable salary for his role)
    reaves (cheap, two ways, can fit basically anywhere)
    trez (think he's chronically underrated for whatever reason, guess he's a difficult personality, but outproduces his salary and you have early bird rights)
    stan (yeah, i put him here. credible bench player who can play multiple spots, still young, now have early bird rights)
    kuz (has gotten overrated due to counting stats in wash, was underrated due to counting stats his last couple years with us, has shown lots of abilities, has size/versatility)
    kcp (streaky, getting old, produces right about where he's paid)
    monk (streaky, very talented, very little defense, no bird rights)
    THT (still a lot of talent, hugely disappointing year, vastly overpaid next year and can walk if he blows up, but full bird rights helps in that case, player option hurts)
    russ (max salary at below replacement-level player impact. ouchity ouch ouch. huge expiring rockets him to near the top of the list if he's still on the roster next february, which says a lot about this list)
    gabriel (no contract, still not sure if he's an nba player)

    tl;dr: to me, contractual status is big for trade value.
     
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