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  1. JSM

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    Visited Bucks first and now GS. Bring him in for a workout. He's probably washed but so is the entire back half of our roster. He's at least 6-6, which most of this roster is not.

    He's probably better than Baze and Ariza. Time to start thinking about next year and our limited assets. If you think you can get anyone here on an audition this year and give them a TO for next season, you need to do it. There's less bidding competition at this point in the season for gambles.
     
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    i'm a fan of the general strategy but maybe not in this specific case. i mean, we stunted THT's growth by bringing in russ, and to me, THT's ceiling is basically the best version of tyreke evans. so maybe in a mentor role of sorts? then again, tyreke has never been a mentor...

    anyway, i'd want to look younger. another stan johnson signing. two year vet min, team option, on a guy who might be able to be part of the 10-12 man rotation. that way, we're not bringing in bazemore/ellington/dj/ariza types.
     
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    Chris Haynes was on Twitter Spaces last night and had this to say...





    Wonder where the truth in this lies. S&Ts must be 3 years, maybe there was haggling over it being guaranteed vs. non/ partial. Haynes is pretty well sources with AD, Klutch, and Bron (in that order from what I've seen), so this is definitely them trying to distance themselves from the Russ decision. IF SA was actually ready and willing and we got cheap, then I'm really at a loss.
     
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    i'm highly suspicious of any deal that had SA helping us in any way. they were going to take kuz and kcp? how many picks?

    also, if the deal was anything close to what derozan signed, that hardcaps us, right?

    i agree that this just feels like more PR from klutch/lebron because they look so bad for engineering the russ trade.
     
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    You are only as good as the result of your decision. Who knew Demarr would play like he has in Chicago? Maybe people need to give Billy Donovan some credit.

    Westbrook playing this bad might also be a result of a s***ty environment with him hitting the wall at the same time. You wouldn't know he was tailing down last year based on his second half play.

    Lakers gambled on everything this last year and lost in every one of them. I also refuse to believe Popazit would have traded demarr to the Lakers. I will never believe that as long as I'm alive. So, that rumor will always be horse**** because it is.
     
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    A clear PR move.
    This world makes me sick. No one is accountable. LeBron has one of the greatest career ever but still does this type of s*** to protect its reputation.
     
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    Yup. No accountability. The underlining defect of what every conflict is.
     
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    Agreed. There was no avenue for us to land DeRozan. He says he would have taken less money but then he said not that much less (MLE which is all we could do) and no Pop would NEVER have traded him here so that wasn’t happening.
     
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    Sounds like a bunch of BS coming out Klutch's camp to save face for the horrible Westbrook deal that they pushed.

    The truth is this - we were about to get Buddy Hield, then LeBron/AD said no let's do Westbrook, and in the background, Rich Paul was pounding the table saying that if we trade for Buddy, his client (THT) is gone. I'm not sure of the timing of everything but I think at the time, we either knew Schroder was for sure gone and that Caruso was also gone, so we couldn't afford to lose all 3 and then end up with Buddy Hield. This is all well sourced btw via Jovan off the record (one of my good friends is tight with him).
     
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    very believable. much moreso than us actually being on the cusp of a derozan deal.

    anyway, back to beal going to philly. if that happens, does anyone think we can get in on it, moving russ back to washington (where he'll be bought out) for harris. we assume the extra year on harris's (bloated) contract, but at least he's not a net negative and can be a legit third scorer. feel like washington would rather gain flexibility than take harris for another year. maybe i'm wrong there, though.
     
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    i'm having a hard time believing that pop would help out the lakers in any way
     
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    He would not and won’t ever in the future. Fake news that we can all see through.
    Nice try, LeGM!
     
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    I am writing this off as complete bunk. This is already the fourth iteration of this story and every single one reads more dishonest than the last. Our offseason was a clown show, orchestrated by a confederacy of dunces, and they're all still busy pointing the finger. Time to stop relitigating the past and look forward. Next season is probably our last shot at a ring with the LeBron/AD nucleus and that should be our focus.
     
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    Meh..who knows? Personally I don't think Lebron, really gives as much of a f***, about how he's perceived in the media honestly. Dude does what he wants to do, his management team, may try to PR his moves but I don't think the guy is as concerned about his "image" when dealing with player moves, as it gets portrayed. He's ruthless IMO..He point blank asked for an AD trade, in the locker room after a game!! Lol..that man doesn't give a f***.
    I actually believe him, he probably did want to keep Caruso, and Dudz, and it's not shocking to me that he probably wanted Demar first and then pivoted to Russ. I also believe that he wanted Kuz and KCP outta here regardless. s*** didn't pan out, MOSTLY because his and AD a**** missed most of the season. So yeah..I'm still blaming him for this fiasco of a season either way. I'm just not as sold on the idea that Lebron has all this power to make the FO do whatever he wants. He has pull, true indeed, not as much as folks seem to think he does tho IMO.
     
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    Lebron not caring, wrong again. He does care. He is balancing the line to be the best ever. He has to win another title at the very least or he's toast in that discussion.
     
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    He's always thinking in the reputation and attention he gets. He made The Decision, I think that says a lot on how he thinks
     
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    I don't think he really cares at all. He cares that people think, that's he's supposed to care maybe. He may pay lip service to all that, but I don't think he really gives a f***. He's an ALL Time great regardless, his play on the Court solidified that. He's business savy tho, it's like Mayweather or Ali, being hated is just as good as being loved, from the box office appeal standpoint. Maybe even more so, he talks that talk about respect and being thought of as a nice guy. But again he moves in an entirely different manner, he's just not trash talking as he goes about it.
     
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    Maybe to a certain extent, but eventually there will be more people, that grew up on Lebron than Jordan. He's not going to ever be out of the discussion. Personally I just want another chip out of him as a Laker. If he doesn't get it he's not even a great Laker IMO. Phenomenal talent nevertheless.
     
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    jordan never lost in the finals. there's just no way around it. he also played his whole (meaningful) career in one place. lebron would have to have gotten two more titles in la to enter the conversation, and that's not going to happen. so he's focusing on kareem.
     
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    Agreed.
    For me, it’s Jordan, then Kobe. LeGM is not, nor ever will be above those two. That being said, I think the GOAT argument is only valid if you break it up into eras.
    So, I only put stock in a GOHE(Greatest Of His Era).
     
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