2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Isn't happening.

Detroit or Houston aren't doing any of those deals without our first round pick.

And since we only have one to give, that kind of presents a problem.

 

i wouldn't be so confident in that, tbh.

just realized i posted the wrong link...

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/adv...r=-1&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular Season

but my point stands anyway. and as fish noted, the three leading contenders all had devastating injuries.

point is that being a top defense is quite valuable, and as or more valuable than being a top offense, despite prevailing modern narratives.

i don't know. how many times are you going to shift the goalposts? did his opponents have devastating injuries, too? he took the best version of the heat to 7 and i bet you can't name their main guys.

who's this coach that's going to get things going here, though. i keep wondering.

 

Yeah, well included a first and a few serviceable pieces to get this Westbrick here.

Nothing surprises me.

Although, I don't think Rob is that desperate, "yet ".

 

false. we would have many more trade options right now had we not brought russ in. smaller, need-for-need moves that are totally impossible right now because we have so much cash wrapped up in a guy nobody wants.

this is why i've argued for years against the three-star approach. especially when the third one isn't a star.

 

Trade Russ the cancer.

 

trading THT for jerami grant when the season is already lost is really going to piss me off

 

The question is, can John Wall be at least 60% of who he was? Anyone......anyone... ?

 

The season may very well be lost. I'm not ready to throw in the rowel yet though. AD is on his way back. We could make some good moves. However, the moves that we make need to be mostly moves that focus on both the present and the future. For example, if we trade THT, hopefully it could be for a still youngish type of player, that is AD's age (28) or younger. Grant actually fits that bill. Another thing about THT is maybe Lakers have lost faith in him, and want to deal him before he is exposed (negatively) and his value drops more? You never know.

 

I would swap them, but I don't know about including a first. If they do it, then you know that there are some serious internal issues going on with Rus, in addition to his bad on-court play.

 

I think so. In my opinion, he would be like a 2019-2020 Rondo. I'm hoping that Wall comes back like a post-injury Derek Rose with a revamped jump shot.

 

None of that s*** matters. The question is, can Wall perform on the court, at least, at a level that teams have to game plan just a little?

 

No!

 

Then you are trading a bad contract for a longer bad contract. No point no matter what 1st rounders are on the table.

 

I thought they both had two years remaining. Are you referring to Westbrook's opt out? Do you think he will opt out? If Wall has one more year, then it is a no-brainer "no". If they have the same amount of years, you still need to think about it. I mean, Wall turns the ball over almost as much as Westbrook, shoots almost as bad. Wall is a better defender, but post injury I', not sure how much better. Maybe slightly better? One thing that cant be quantified in stats is the all of the drama with Westbrook. Maybe Wall doesn't have that? I don't know. Straight up, you probably have to make that trade though if they have the same amount of years.

 

That was a great team actually.

Paul George (this is pre injury PG, best wing defender in the league)
George Hill
Roy Hibbert
David West
Lance Stephenson

They also had a whole host of large wings on the bench to throw at Wade and Lebron.

They were a real Vogel team too, great habits, well coached, gritty, locked in on defence and played a slow tempo style. Like most of Vogel’s teams they had issues scoring.

 

I didn’t make any point in regards to trades. As constructed today, our roster has performed about even with last years team. The common denominator is our top 10 player in AD being out.

 

if thats true then holy s*** are the pistons dumb