Kobe Wouldn't Have Even Flinched

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    What happened there with the 2nd bit .... missed it? Is it a chance for more mocking? I'm in!

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    Yea, Jackson's been super annoying. It's even affecting JVG.. JVG knows he [Jackson] is biased and sounds like he [JVG] doesn't want to step on his [Jackson's] toes.
     
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    i don't blame Jackson for being bitter, but he really isn't the right analyst for this particular series due to his bias.
     
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    First thing came to mind reading the thread title was Matt Barnes and kobe
     
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    I don't want Lebron to win, and I hope he fails at everything he does (basketball wise, I only have "sports hate" for him). Granted, I might be the only person on this site who thinks Lebron is better than Kobe (in their primes).

    But this was an OBVIOUS flop. I've been cut pretty bad on a few occasions. I had my nose partially torn off in a football game (no lie), and I didn't roll around on the ground like that. He acted like a three year old who skinned his knee.
     
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    Kobe would've jacked off threes into the loose kitty like the juggler's knot he is.
     
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    That's mind bottling.
     
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    This IS LeBron in his prime, and if you still think he is better than Kobe ever was... I just ...
     
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    He flopped himself into the cameras and then rolled around like he was shot. Don't forget the circle of security guards that pushed away cameras, they don't want you to see the "king" injured. And now today the big news story is how great he is for still playing with a cut in his head. Ugh.
     
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    I do. I'm not drinking the media Kool-aid either. He is dragging scrubs along with him at this point. Lebron is leading a team that is brutally awful to a 2-2 tie with a team that won 67 games in the insane Western Conference. This team is worse than the Kobe led team that lost to the Suns. Who is their second best player right now? Tristan Thompson? He has been in the Finals 5 straight years. He is a one man team. I'm not saying he's more skilled. Put Kobe in LBJs body and he probably would average a triple double. But Lebron is such a beast who is also talented...It's just my opinion.
     
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    Think about it though: those Suns were the precursor to this Warriors team. Kobe was still fairly young.

    If LeBron had played in the West he wouldn't have gotten to the Finals plain and simple.

    Kobe was up 3-1 on those Suns. I think this is roughly what Kobe in 2007 would be doing except GS would never dare cover Kobe 1 on 1.
     
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    ^Exactly, and really, outside of Odom, Cavaliers have a much better team. Mosgov is sooooooooo much better than Kwame. Tristan Thompson, Dellavedirty, Shumpert, and even JR Smith are much better than their counterparts (Cook, Smush, Luke, Vujacic, etc.).
     
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    Seemed a normal stumble to me but I will defer to veteran LBJ flop spotters on LB. If that's the case..... BAD decision King. Not only did it inspire this thread on LB on one of the reasons Kobe is looked upon with more respect as a competitor and no nonsense player than you, you now have the twitter and comment world mocking you for the size of your unit. I can only imagine the pain considering how much that balding spot and game with the sweat band was bothering you. Not much you can do here buddy. Hope that flop and writhing around was worth it. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/lebrons-junk-flash-internet-reacts-163912367.html
     
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    The good Aussie in this series Bogut had his view:

    Everything LeBron James does stirs debate – even an accidental fall into a cameraman.

    The Cavaliers superstar suffered a cut to his head in the Warriors’ Game 4 victory, and Andrew Bogut believes it was James’ fault. After Bogut fouled him as he drove the baseline, James took two more stumbling steps before he fell into the cameraman seated courtside.

    “I think he jumped into the cameraman,” Bogut said, via USA Today. “Yeah, I think he came down and took two steps and then fell into the cameraman. I definitely, definitely didn’t hit him that hard.”

    When asked if that was what he saw, Bogut responded even more firmly.

    “No, that’s how it was. If you look at the replay, you can see the two steps being taken and then him falling into the camera. That’s what we saw on the replay, and that’s what my teammates saw.”
     
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    I don't think people really understand just how bad that team Kobe lead was.
     
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    Kobe's game by game stats (averaging as we go) vs. Suns:
    22 pts, 5 ast, 6 reb, 33% FGs
    25.5 pts, 5.0 ast, 8.0 reb, 42% FG
    22.7 pts, 5.7 ast, 7.0 reb, 40% FG
    23.0 pts, 6.3 ast, 6.3 reb, 44% FG
    24.2 pts, 6.0 ast, 6.4 reb, 47% FG
    28.5 pts, 5.8 ast, 6.8 reb, 50% FG
    27.9 pts, 5.1 ast, 6.3 reb, 50% FG
    Kobe started off slower, but he turned it on in that series.

    LeBron
    44.0 points, 6 assists, 8 rebounds, 47% FG
    41.5 pts, 8.5 ast, 12.0 reb, 40%
    41.0 pts, 8.3 ast, 12.0 reb, 40%
    35.7 pts, 8.3 ast, 12.0 reb, 39%

    James has been doing it less and less efficiently.
     
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    Kobe faced a much harder defense too. LeBron has been single covered the majority of this series. There's no chance any team would consider that strategy against Kobe.
     
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    i think with Kobe's longevity that people, even Lakers fans are starting to forget just how dominant the man was in his prime. for example, whenever people make the argument that Kobe doesn't make his teammates better, I ask them to look up how many players from the 2005-2007 Lakers teams are still in this league.
     
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    Different breed. I find it crazy that nobody even dares to suggests that he threw himself into the camera and if you do you're labeled a hater.

    Sorry Savory, I'd take prime Kobe over prime Bron. Kobe's Lakers in 06-07 would've made the Finals in todays Eastern conference. I don't see who is stopping the Cavs from getting there year in and year out.
     
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    There's no doubt in my mind prime Jordan or prime Bryant takes prime LeBron in one on one match ups. They were not as heavy or tall, but were athletic and strong as hell in their primes and could defend him effectively enough to BEAT him, not to mention they were waay stronger mentally and would have been in his head big time. And waay more skillful in ways to attack on offense. Now after 10 years as his athleticism is starting to diminish a bit, and it will, he is finally developing a back to the basket game. Somewhat. So depends on where you call LeBron's "prime" time wise in his career. When he was at his peak athletically he didn't have enough skills to beat them, and now as he expands his skills he is on the downside of his prime physically. Kobe and Mike had both at the same time in their "primes". Plus I'm a Kobe homer ..... what else would you expect. [​IMG]
     
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