President Trump

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by TIME, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Kenzo

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    Covid isn't going anywhere guys :(
    It's freakin BAD.
     
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    It is biggest f***ing BS


    The real purpose of these lockdowns was three-fold:
    1. Crush the domestic economy and blame Trump for poor economic performance.
    2. Cancel in-person voting and justify mail-in ballots, allowing massive election fraud by Democrats.
    3. Keep children home from school, allowing them to vote by using the mail-in ballots that were sent to them by the Dems.
    Yesterday, Bill Gates congratulated Joe Biden for his “win,” since Bill Gates can’t wait for a President Biden to declare mandatory vaccines, mandatory masks and mandatory lockdowns.

    The COVID plandemic played a key role in all this, even in suppressing Trump rallies and stripping away personal freedoms from the American people.
     
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  3. Kenzo

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    Im sure the world is OK with loosing billions and billions of $, just to get rid of Trump. It's a worldwide conspiracy and COVID is a hoax. Now i get it, thanks.
     
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    i thought you were being serious until i read #3

    decent trolljob
     
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  5. KuzmoBall17

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    I am f***ing serious.And Biden will never be a president
     
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    I understand that you’re upset, but it’s really not that hard to believe that people hated Trump that much. To be honest I didn’t think it would work, but the media did a number on people.:giggle:

    I’m realizing now that even though there were some very suspicious irregularities in multiple states, and that there needs to be a lot of election reform, the hate for Trump far outweighed people’s logic and it was enough to get the numbers we saw without needing any fraud. There were ballots that only had a vote for Biden and nothing else. The Trump hate was/is real, but contrary to the popular consensus, Trump did not enhance or magnify the divisiveness of this country, at least not directly. The media literally made it a crime, so to speak, to say anything about the guy that wasn’t hate or vitriol and it caused the followers of the media to regurgitate that hate towards the regular American who liked him(Trump) or saw through the lies of the media. Trump said some racially and culturally insensitive things, but it was the media that caused people like @Weezy and @432J to hate Trump supporters and conservatives and pretty much anyone who decided not to blindly hate the guy. I say it was a two way street there.

    Now, with all that said, if it is official and Biden does in fact become the pres, chances are he will be gridlocked. The Senate majority looks to have remained in the Republicans favor and they will also flip or have already flipped about 5-7 seats in the house. On the state levels, there were no Democrats who won or picked up any major legislative or judicial seats. Even though it looks like the Democrats may have defeated Trump, they lost wayyy more by not winning where it counted (Congress, State, etc.)

    And 2022 seems likes it’s gonna be another detriment to the Democrats if Trump actually did lose. Republicans and Conservatives are gonna be upset and are gonna let their voices be heard with pen and paper, not rioting and looting. It’s all gonna be interesting to watch imo. Almost as interesting as when Trump was trolling everybody. :D
     
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  8. Weezy

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    Please don’t speak about me as if you know me, are diagnosing me, talking down to me as if I’m a media pawn, or like I’m not actually in the room and can’t hear you. First of all I dislike Trump for so many reasons, most of which have to do with who he is a person and how he acts, what he says, and what he clearly believes based on those previous two things.

    Second I don’t hate anyone, we are one country here, growing more and more divided because people have dug into their camps and refuse to work together to meet in the middle somewhere, or to even have rational and civil discussions with the other side. I haven’t been the one in here making sweeping generalizations in here like Democrats will never change, and it’s all a Democrat plot, the Democrats will be the end of the country, and on and on and on. I don’t think I’ve even really referred to republicans as a group, or conservatives, I know, or I’d like to think the majority of people are not just their party and follow it blindly, I’d hope there’s tons of room for nuance and individual cases there. I don’t agree on a lot with republicans and conservatives, but we do agree on some things, it’s Trump specifically I don’t like. For example I wasn’t super into politics then, but I don’t remember disliking George W Bush all that much during his time, he was just another president, good and bad, but still carried himself in a mostly dignified way and wasn’t a raving lunatic with the mind and temperament of a child.

    Again, I don’t hate anyone, I have a lot a family that are Republicans and conservatives, we disagree on things, and that’s ok, because most of them are normal people and we can just talk, they aren’t boorish oafs like Trump who call you fake news for sharing a different viewpoint, or refuse to look at any argument or facts that might hurt their case because it’s truth. That’s one more reason I dislike Trump, he’s made it acceptable for people to just spout nonsense loudly and claim it as fact. KuzmoBall17 just did that and it’s sad, he clearly needs help if he believes the stuff he just said, that’s like Dale Gribble levels of face palming stuff, and he’s a cartoon character parody.

    I get why people voted for Trump, I get why people continued to support him. I get the voters from 2016 who voted because he was the lesser of two evils even if they didn’t like him. Now maybe understand that I and many others did the same with Biden, to us, lesser of two evils, even if he is a slimy politician just like the rest of them. I’d still rather have that tiny shred of sanity back in the seat of the president though, to not have to see what insane thing he’s tweeted or said to reporters today, to not have to watch him whip his cult like followers into a frenzy and create more us vs them divide seemingly because it amuses him, it’s grown tired. That’s all I’ll say on that, don’t speak for me as if I’m some sheep or pawn of the media and you’re above that and me so you feel sorry for me. I could do that here myself for multiple reasons, but I try on most days not to be a jerk if I can avoid it and just let people live and do their thing as long as they're not hurting anyone else.
     
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    I feel like people are misinterpreting what voting means. You vote for who you believe will bring this country forward in the best way possible. In my opinion, that isn't Joe Biden. I am not a racist because I support Trump. Nearly half of the voters voted for Trump. In NY, 45% of voters voted for Trump. NY didn't magically become more 'racist.' People are genuinely sick of Democrat-led policies that have ruined NYC. Crime is way up, homeless people are treated better by our government than taxpayers, and the middle-class gets shafted to protect illegals. If you exclude California, more people voted for Trump than Biden. That's representative of how the ENTIRE country across all states feel about Trump. Joe Biden to me is the same-old stuff you will get that people have been complaining about for decades. People hated politicians before Trump ever ran. One thing I will say about Trump is he is a douche. But when I take a look at the policies, he's been more consistent and accurate than the majority of politicians. Here we have Kamala Harris who accused Joe Biden of being inappropriate with women and yet, she's his VP? Not to mention she accused him of being semi-racist when he was against busing. Here we have Joe Biden saying the sickest things about black people in mainstream media but do they attack him for it?

    Joe Biden: "You ain't black if you don't vote for me."
    Joe Biden: "Poor kids are just as smart as white kids."
    Joe Biden: "Obama is the first mainstream African American who is articulate, clean, and handsome."
    Joe Biden: "It's going to be like a jungle out there."

    Trump saying any of the above and he's immediately crucified by the media. Let's quit acting like Biden is an angel. People didn't vote for Biden because they like him or Harris. They voted because they wanted Trump out. If that's your stance, I won't knock you for it. But I believe discussing the policies and their presence in government far outvalues the hate you can have for someone based on personal preference. I thought Joe would win once it became obvious that the coronavirus was going to drag out this long. Pre-COVID, I think Trump wins in an absolute landslide. Unfortunately, no president can come out of COVID with a positive result. You either risk the economy or risk higher deaths.

    I would only hope that people understand that the media is the true culprit here. Blaming Trump for racism, sexism, or whatever it is you guys feel he is responsible for is laughable. These problems exist and will continue to exist in the future. BLM will be here to stay. Police killing black people (whether justly or unjustly) is going to still happen. These problems don't go away because Trump isn't the president. Let's see what Joe can do. I give it a few months before we start hearing cracklings of Harris being the true decision maker here. I won't bash Joe because I do believe Biden truly wants to unite both parties in a way Trump quit trying to do. If Joe does a great job, it's great for America. If Joe was smart, he would put Andrew Yang in a high cabinet position. And I'd love to see Tulsi as Secretary of State. Someone who both sides can work with and does not want to engage in war. If Joe can keep the economy stable, be tough on China, and not get into any military conflict, I will gladly vote him 2nd term.

    A very fun and interesting fact, 26% of minority voters voted for Trump - the highest % since 1960. It has nothing to do with racism and more to do with policies that people of all races believe are working.
     
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    I have a feeling we will see terrorist attacks in the US again. Very soon and quite often, similar to the 100 during Obamas 96 months in office. Zero during Trumps 46 months.

    Anyone wanna bet???
     
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    there were 100 terrorist attacks in the US during obama's presidency? source?
     
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    I guess the terrorists don’t really need to come in and do it when the citizens are doing the jobs for them already.
     
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    You should seriously consider changing your source(s) of information, these conspiracy theories may be fun now and then but if you really believe in half what you wrote there, you're living in a (very sad) fantasy world.
     
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    Domestic terrorism via white supremacists/conspiracy theorists that have had their hatred and paranoia stoked by Trump? Absolutely, I am quite concerned about this as well. Glad we have some common ground.
     
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    Live look at KuzmoBall

     
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    Link?
     
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    I honestly have no idea what / who you're referring to. If it is the rioting and looting,, I never said it didn't happen under Trump or Obama.
     
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