2020-21 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. BangBoomPow

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    Eric Pinkus is supposedly a salary cap nerd so he did the math and it works but you are right, the team will be gutted and it depends on if Javale+Avery opt in. Danny, Kuz, Javale, Avery, and the 28th pick are gone. The good thing is they are on their final year so it's great if you want those expiring contracts but the trade/free agency market sucks next season. I think CP3 is going to have to be realistic here. If he wants to win a ring, he needs to opt out next season and join the Lakers in free agency for let's say, two years $30 million. He can't get the money and the ring while being an older point guard. He ain't no LeBron James. I'd rather the Lakers go after Hield or Oladipo before ever looking at CP3. I don't think people remember that Oladipo was an All-NBA First Team defender just two years ago. It's a gamble on his health but worth taking.
     
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    The "don't want Chris Paul" stuff is really similar to what people said about LBJ.

    Even at his age, Chris Paul is one of the best PG's in the league. High percentages. Smart. Statically one of the best players in the clutch. If LeBron wants him and it's feasible, I won't say no. He knows who can and will come join. Just enjoy the ride at this point. Chris Paul could make us laughably good during the last 2 years of LBJ being King.

    Aside from last year when LBJ was injured (and he probably knew all the kids would be traded), he has gone to the finals every year for a decade. He's playing GM. He told us not to worry and we got a title the next year.

    CP3 is an all timer who can still smash. I trust LeBron's judgment.
     
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    Woah, not even close. Chris Paul is a mini-LeBron but outside of last season, he was almost always injured in previous seasons. That's $40 million on one player who you have to trust won't stay injured or else we lost 1/3rd of our salary cap production. The people who didn't want LeBron, let's be honest, were just die-hard Kobe fans. They respect his game.
     
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    How am I not close? LeBron basically picks his teammates at this point. He always gets to the Finals . Paul is still really good. If we can get cheap vets, why not?
     
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    Cause we are literally talking about vet minimum guys. We might get 3 or 4 that have something left in the tank, but we'd need like 8. And if CP3 gets hurt (which he has done like 5 of the last 6 years) we have zero depth. Two stars is enough, especially when your two stars are Lebron and AD. I think depth and competent players going 9 deep is better than a third star who could get injured at any moment.
     
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    And that hasn't worked in the past?

    What was your thought on LBJ originally coming to the Lakers? Out of curiosity.
     
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    It’s not actually. I’d take Chris Paul in a second if he was making 20 mil and could he had for Kuz, Green, and picks, or if he was bought out and came here for the MLE or something. The only reason I don’t want him is because of his contract, trading for him GUTS this team. As we are right now we are playing to win titles AND be set up for the future if we play this right. We have guys like AC and THT to hopefully continue to grow and keep around for cheap. If we trade for Paul we are locked into 3 gigantic contracts and no way to improve around the margins except late first or 2nd round picks, and tons of one year vet minimum signings year after year after year.

    That is what killed us in the end with the Shaq/Kobe teams, and it’s why every team LeBron leaves is absolute garbage right after. You have to be careful not to let that happen here like in Cleveland and Miami, we have to build for titles, yes, but also think post-LeBron so we don’t have to do a full rebuild. You also will find it harder and harder to win building your team that way, it’s why we lost in ‘03, the cast around Shaq and Kobe got worse and worse, and why we lost in ‘04, our crap roster outside our best players couldn’t sustain us when Malone got injured. Stay the course, sign very good, solid defensive talent, or trade for a 3rd guy with a reasonable contract like some that have been brought up here. Trading for Chris Paul on 40 million dollar deal is a mistake, guts the team, and if he gets injured in the playoffs we see screwed because we traded our depth for him, and likely we will be an old team because all we could afford were ring-chasing vet minimum guys. That’s a gamble that COULD pay off, sure, but why do it that way when we won doing it a smarter way this season? Why not try that again, just with trying to improve in other areas to round out the roster again.
     
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    I never once said Chris Paul is what we should do. But if this is smoke, and there's fire, I can justify it. Flat out saying no and how ridiculous it is just makes me laugh.

    Gut the team? By trading Green, Kuzma, fillers? If you can add one of the top 40 players in the NBA and trade away dudes that can have roles replaced, you do it IMO.

    At the end of the day, if LBJ wants this, it'll happen, and I'll defend it. Because he wins... A lot.
     
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    Trading Danny, Kuz and fillers is not 40+ million dollars. The math doesn’t work, so laugh all you want.
     
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    Don't rile her up KB. We've all seen what she's capable of.

    :ADnaughty:
     
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    You would have to trade Green, Kuz, Bradley, McGee, and Cook to get Cp3...and with KCP and Rondo both opting out, that trade just became a little more difficult to make and maybe even impossible. That puts us at 31M outgoing, and CP3 is 41M (!!!) incoming...I don't know if trade would be legal? We would have to throw in Caruso (nope) or THT (Klutch client) to maybe make this deal work....which isn't goin to happen.
     
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    I really love the off-season post championship. All these scenrios are so much damn fun!
     
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    sure beats having the draft as the only thing to look forward to
     
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    Beautiful thing is, the Lakers have the 28th pick in the draft too. While all the teams they waxed or got waxed early, traded their entire futures for 2nd round exists.
     
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    From what I read, the math is possible. I'm not an expert, but I'd hope the source knows enough to make the scenario possible. That's why I'm commenting on this in the first place.

    I didn't add EVERY player that would need to be included, so it's not about who I said to include vs the math. I just included players that actively contributed to our title run. Virtually everyone would be bait if LeBron truly wants to get Paul here.

    I'm simply commenting on the possibility of Paul and what it brings. If the math works, and LeBron wants him (like the article suggests), none of this matters. LBJ will get his guy, and at the end of the day we have the best "Big 3" in the NBA.
     
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    Hell No to CP3's contract, you can't win playing 3 on 5.. Give me a younger, borderline All Star 2 Guard that can slash & hit Threes for the 20-25Mil that Green + Kuz +? can get us & we're more than set. Then we'd still have money to fill out the Team & bring back any of our Free Agents we'd like to keep.
     
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    Of course it's "possible". It's also possible I could sell my House & buy a Bugatti, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
    No one is claiming that CP3's skillset wouldn't be lethal paired with LeBron & AD, but the money just doesn't make sense.
    It wouldn't be just Green + Kuz + Fillers. It would be every tradable asset we have not named Lebron or AD, including picks. With nothing but maybe a few exemptions & Vet mins to fill out the roster.
    We don't need CP3's services that bad & he does nothing to help us build for the future.
     
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    I was for it. I didn't like Lebron, but I wanted him.

    It worked in Miami, but they all three were in their primes and none of them were giant injury risks. Even then, it took them 2 years and a couple off-offseasons of MLE and exception signings to fill out the roster. We do the CP3 deal, we're year one Miami with two guys in their mid thirties as opposed to mid twenties.
     
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    Lebron coming to LA was weird. No reaction to it really other than, really? When rumblings of the Lakers offering the kids for AD at the deadline started coming out, I was like, NO!! DON'T DO IT. They are messing with you and they wont trade AD here. I knew they would string the Lakers along and then not do s***. That happened and I was PISSED at Lebron and his agent. That year ended the way it did and it was exactly how it played out after the trade deadline.

    Looking back on it, I get what they were doing. Lebron felt we can win a title this year if i can just get AD here. But the issue was the NOP had no reason to trade him then.

    Anyways, fast forward to that summer. They get AD and then the Kawhi chase. Lakers put all their eggs in that one and Kawhi doesnt come. Now the feeling is, ok, LA vs LA will finally be it. It was, it just didnt happen where it really mattered, but the Lakers win the title. So give credit to Lebron and Klutch, with management and ownership, they won the title through this hell of a year.

    At this point, Lebron has nothing to prove, in my eyes. If they never win another title, it would suck, but Lebron stamped his Laker legacy and his own legacy 100%.
     
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    Paul may want to be here, and Lebron and AD may want CP3, but I just don't see it happening. That salary he has is crazy to try and acquire.
     
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