2015 Free Agent Discussion

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  1. trodgers

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    Players love guaranteed $. That's a big reason to lock up some dudes.
     
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    KJ McDaniels is an absolute steal. Watched him play many times in college at nearby Clemson. Was putting up All-Rookie numbers in Philly until he was traded to Houston mid-season and relegated to the bench. Super athletic, and a good defender and shot blocker.

     
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    So we can expect Love to be arm wrestled to the ground every year? We can expect Rondo to get traded to a team he really didn't care for mid-season on his last year of his contract right?

    The point of having them for one year is exactly as it entitles:

    1. No long term commitment if they turn out to be as you say "injury prone" or "cancerous".
    2. You let them gel with the team to see if they like it, and if it's successful, it will...
    3. Let them consider staying on a bigger, longer contract in 2016.

    If not, 2016 is a vast open sea of Free Agency you can start over again like every other team is planning to do anyway.
     
  4. lakerfan2

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    When you consider that the cap is expected to explode to uncharted levels in 2016, $14M will be more like $10M. If you're unable to land one of these stars, might as well lock up a system guy who will fit in the grand scheme in the long run.

    Just think WE COULD essentially have a 2016 lineup of:

    Clarkson
    Carroll
    Durant
    Randle
    Okafor

    AND STILL have money for another max player.
     
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    1. Wrestling under the basket goes with the PF territory. Why did Love allow himself to get put in that position where his shoulder was so vulnerable? Yes it was a dirty move, but Love needs to be smart enough & strong enough to not get injured in those situations. Now that it's obvious he was, do you think the other NBA 4s & 5s are going to say, "Let's go easy on Love since he is easily injured"?

    2. Rondo was a head case before he ever arrived in Dallas.
     
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    Love has been doing that his whole career, why hasn't it happened before? It was what it was, a dirty move. Same with Kobe slamming into Bynum's knee, it just happened, nothing you can do about it. He'll be fine.

    Rondo is a head case, but he's a talented head case that wants to play with talent. Is he without flaws? Of course not, but he's shown that he's plenty capable when motivated. I'm not saying he's worth the max, far from it, but it's worth giving him a shot on a one year deal at a certain price point.
     
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    I'd definitely like to see us go after him. Another solid young talent.
     
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    Precisely. I think some fans are operating under the old CBA rules, but when the cap blows up 14 million for Carroll will look fine. It'll essentially be half a max contract.

    A max contract for a 10 year veteran in the NBA next year will START at over 30 million dollars. Yeah. I'll pay Carroll 14 million this summer without a problem as long as we've got plans to add a backup PG and hopefully a veteran Center as well.
     
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    If we end up spending a ton of money on a guy like Love or Aldridge or something, McDaniels is a great value find. He was a darling fantasy basketball pickup for me until he got traded.

    I'm not a fan of us going super young in FA unless it's on one of the RFA forwards, but this would be a good addition.
     
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    I want to see the lakers poison pill morey to get mcdaniels. would be sweet.
     
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    Ahhh ..... More Americans with hammer and cycle for the C type espionage. I like it.... "poison pill" [​IMG]
     
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    Amongst FA Wings

    Spot Up Shooting by PPP (Frequency in parentheses)

    JR Smith...............1.23 (33.4%)
    Marco Belinelli.......1.23 (37.1%)
    Khris Middleton......1.20 (25.7%)
    Danny Green.........1.19 (41.1%)
    Demarre Carroll.....1.18 (34.9%)
    Wesley Matthews....1.17 (30.3%)
    Jimmy Butler..........1.16 (13.6%)
    Gerald Green.........1.14 (19.1%)
    Paul Pierce............1.10 (31.3%)
    Mike Dunleavy.......1.10 (28.4%)
    Kawhi Leonard.......1.08 (25.3%)
    Arron Afflalo..........1.07 (26.6%)
    Wesley Johnson.....1.06 (23.9%)
    Jared Dudley.........1.05 (43.8%)
    Luol Deng.............1.01 (26.7%)
    Tobias Harris.........1.00 (25.9%)
    Iman Shumpert.....0.97 (37.0%)
    Jeff Green.............0.95 (24.2%)
    Jae Crowder..........0.93 (33.8%)
    Gerald Henderson..0.93 (20.3%)
    Draymond Green...0.90 (27.9%)
    Monta Ellis............0.88 (14.0%)
    Al-Farouq Aminu....0.83 (30.5%)
    Corey Brewer.........0.73 (28.8%)
     
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    Spot Up Shooting Defense

    Draymond Green.........0.79 (22.3%)
    Wesley Matthews.........0.81 (22.3%)
    Arron Afflalo...............0.83 (24.8%)
    Corey Brewer..............0.84 (27.8%)
    Jae Crowder................0.84 (36.0%)
    Iman Shumpert...........0.85 (27.3%)
    Khris Middleton...........0.85 (44.2%)
    Danny Green..............0.89 (23.2%)
    JR Smith....................0.90 (29.7%)
    Demarre Carroll..........0.91 (38.7%)
    Paul Pierce..................0.95 (32.3%)
    Tobias Harris...............0.96 (34.5%)
    Luol Deng...................0.99 (34.6%)
    Gerald Henderson........0.99 (27.2%)
    Jimmy Butler...............0.99 (17.5%)
    Kawhi Leonard.............0.99 (26.1%)
    Monta Ellis..................1.00 (33.0%)
    Jared Dudley................1.02 (33.8%)
    Jeff Green...................1.02 (33.8%)
    Wesley Johnson...........1.07 (29.4%)
    Marco Belinelli.............1.08 (30.8%)
    Al-Farouq Aminu..........1.09 (34.4%)
    Gerald Green...............1.15 (25.1%)
    Jae Crowder.................1.22 (37.5%)
     
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    Transition Offense

    Mike Dunleavy.........1.38 (15.0%) the (bleep)? [​IMG]
    Jimmy Butler...........1.35 (16.0%)
    Corey Brewer...........1.28 (34.7%)
    Al-Farouq Aminu......1.26 (21.0%)
    JR Smith.................1.26 (15.8%)
    Jared Dudley............1.23 (18.4%)
    Luol Deng................1.22 (12.9%)
    Khris Middleton.........1.21 (16.9%)
    Gerald Henderson.....1.20 (12.3%)
    Kawhi Leonard..........1.18 (19.6%)
    DeMarre Carroll........1.15 (25.0%)
    Draymond Green......1.14 (18.2%)
    Jeff Green................1.13 (13.7%)
    Iman Shumpert.........1.13 (14.7%)
    Danny Green............1.13 (19.0%)
    Wesley Matthews.......1.12 (17.1%)
    Paul Pierce................1.12 (19.0%)
    Wesley Johnson.........1.07 (15.0%)
    Tobias Harris.............1.07 (12.9%)
    Monta Ellis................1.04 (14.6%)
    Gerald Green.............1.02 (18.9%)
    Jae Crowder...............0.99 (19.5%)
    Arron Afflalo..............0.90 (15.8%)
    Marco Belinelli...........0.87 (9.1%)
     
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    Wins Above Replacement

    Draymond Green.......14.74
    Kawhi Leonard...........12.67
    Khris Middleton..........12.44
    Danny Green.............10.98
    Jimmy Butler..............10.29
    Luol Deng....................8.41
    Wesley Matthews..........7.55
    Monta Ellis...................7.34
    Mike Dunleavy..............6.36
    Jared Dudley................5.03
    JR Smith......................4.35
    Al-Farouq Aminu...........4.29
    Iman Shumpert............4.04
    Gerald Henderson.........3.87
    DeMarre Carroll............3.82
    Paul Pierce...................3.16
    Wesley Johnson............2.15
    Jae Crowder.................1.98
    Tobias Harris...............-0.26
    Marco Belinelli.............-0.65
    Arron Afflalo................-0.79
    Jeff Green...................-1.88
     
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    Mike Dunleavy.........1.03 (5.2%)
    Kawhi Leonard........0.90 (10.1%)
    Jimmy Butler...........0.89 (15.1%)
    Wesley Matthews.....0.86 (7.3%)
    Tobias Harris...........0.85 (12.8%)
    Gerald Green...........0.84 (18.5%)
    Monta Ellis..............0.83 (43.7%)
    Gerald Henderson....0.82 (23.7%)
    JR Smith................0.82 (18.1%)
    Luol Deng...............0.78 (5.8%)
    Jeff Green...............0.72 (16.0%)
    Marco Belinelli.........0.72 (15.4%)
    Corey Brewer...........0.70 (3.7%)
    Wesley Johnson.......0.70 (12.6%)
    Danny Green...........0.70 (6.5%)
    DeMarre Carroll.......0.70 (7.5%)
    Khris Middleton.......0.65 (9.0%)
    Arron Afflalo...........0.62 (6.6%)
    Paul Pierce.............0.60 (9.5%)
    Iman Shumpert......0.60 (19.4%)
    Al-Farouq Aminu.....0.57 (3.0%)
    Jae Crowder...........0.55 (5.1%)
    Draymond Green....N/A
    Jared Dudley..........N/A
     
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    Offensive Box Plus/Minus

    Jimmy Butler..............4.1
    Wesley Matthews........3.8
    Danny Green..............2.8
    Kawhi Leonard............2.6
    DeMarre Carroll..........2.4
    Paul Pierce.................1.7
    JR Smith....................1.7
    Luol Deng..................1.1
    Draymond Green.........1.0
    Khris Middleton...........0.9
    Gerald Green..............0.8
    Monta Ellis.................0.7
    Mike Dunleavy............0.6
    Marco Belinelli............0.6
    Tobias Harris..............0.4
    Jeff Green..................0.1
    Jared Dudley...............0.1
    Jae Crowder...............-0.2
    Al-Farouq Aminu.........-0.5
    Arron Afflalo..............-0.5
    Iman Shumpert..........-0.7
    Corey Brewer.............-0.8
    Wesley Johnson.........-0.9
    Gerald Henderson......-1.2
     
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    Good work RandleROFY. Gerald Green, Dunleavy, Afflalo, Aminu, & Wes Matthews stand out as potential value signings based on those #'s. Tobias Harris was higher than I expected him to be in some of those categories.
     
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    No Problem. Thanks for taking note of it.
     
  20. therealdeal

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    Awesome work!

    I'm digging where Danny Green and DeMarre Carroll are on those lists.
     
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