NBA Season Part 2: Life In The Orlando Bubble

I apologize if my point comes out unclear and try do to a better job. My original intent of posting is because of the messaging bucks/nba. Facts cops were called out to a domestic dispute. He had an arrest warrant, and priors other words a criminal. Why do people keep overlooking that? They wrestled and a taser was used, but failed to stop him. Guns were drawn and he did not comply. Now people say why didn't the cops just tackle/restrain him (cops has to be better trained), on the other side of the spectrum, why didn't he just comply? Why did he fail to comply? Could it be pride, drugs, nefarious motives? What was the reason he opened and reach into his car? What's deadlier within 10ft a gun or a knife? Its a knife. All those factors has to be made in a few seconds. Cops should make us feel safe, but we also should to do our part for them to feel safe too.

Now onto Kyle. Before the incident, there's no reasonable way of knowing he was underage and castle doctrine not applying to him. At that moment optics are he's an individual protecting his property in an open carry state (that's why the water statement is unfair). After the 2 incidents, he goes towards the cops hands up and rifle slung. Yes on camera we can hear him admit to shooting. Now this is the murky part from the limited info I understood... did the cops audibly hear his statement of shooting someone? If it's proved that they heard and just left him off, then YES that's BS! Those cops should be punished! Or could the case be, they didn't hear and told people to vacate the area?

We have various opinions on the matter. Things aren't simple, I just try to ask questions. Nba players have a huge platform and can push a narrative a certain way. They're responsible for the messaging and if its a way of propping up Blake, i'm not for that.

 

My understanding is the majority of people who are killed by police are white, but disproportionately black.

 

Ok, so what does the numbers say?
Also, who commits more crimes? You guys know a place where i can find all these stats?

 

I read 14 unarmed black men and 25 whites were shot and killed by the police in 2019. Add Floyd and a few others this year.

 

Personally i'm not overlooking Blake's criminal past. There was no way the cops at the time knew about his criminal past just as you said about Kyle and how there was no way cops would know he's illegally carry a gun that isn't his and just shot multiple people. The issue is that with all things equal, why do we see two disparate outcomes when supposedly the police department is trained for these situations, yet it appears they are responding to both in different ways.

 

Here is one from the Department of Health and Human Services:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

 

not an officer but had slight interest in join chp n passed the tests...its basically the training, mentality of "kill or be killed" so your weapon is always rdy to go...also seen documentary where they showed majority of police training are done by this 1 guy who does alot of training for military...one of his key points is that 'if youre not ready to take a life this isnt the job for you"

 

From my experience on the internet, people who say they're going to stop doing "x" because of "y" usually don't. Or they do but come back shortly. Reminds of me Charlie Kirk when he said he's going stop watching the NBA because of BLM again and again. Like I don't like Chik-fil-a's stance on LGBTQIA+ issues and "swore them off", but who am I kidding, their chicken sandwiches are bomb.

 

I do agree with this. When I get pulled over by cops, first thing I am sure to do is put both hands on my steering wheel and stay still. If they ask me for something, (proof of insurance, etc.), I tell them where it is before I reach for it. Truth is, everyone is paranoid when pulled over by a cop and I would never dream of yelling at the cop or disobeying the cops demands. I always tell the cop the truth without offering up superfluous information. I have been railroaded by some cops and treated fairly by others. I have to say that the police have become too much of a profit center for the political system. They write tickets because the people who employ them, tell them to write tickets or else. This is NOT the cops fault, it is the politicians fault. Governors, mayors, etc etc. They do not look at us as "the people" they have sworn to serve and protect, they look at us as a profit center to exploit. I think that side of this whole thing sucks. If we have some bad cops, it is the fault of the people who hire bad people. Bad people make bad cops. We should be looking at the people who hire the police and the politicians who set policy.

All that being what it is, when a cop pulls me over, I am mindful and don't stir up s***. I am respectful and if I have a problem with how they are treating me and I choose to say something, I say it as politely as possible.

Treat a cop like poo and you are going to get something back that you will not like. It's just not worth it.

I think some people are not sensible and expect the democrats to exonerate them of their obviously bad behavior. Nobody but the radical left is buying in. But everyone is buying in that black people are getting completely shafted here. There are ways to protest this correctly with inclusion, when you go out and bash everyone that is not part of your demographic, you will eventually fall on deaf ears.

Yeah, there are obviously white people who are racist as all get out, but there are way more white people that hate it and do not want to be part of it. Remember that even back in Lincolns day, most white people did not like it, they fought to end slavery then and have continued to fight for inclusion and the end of bigotry and prejudice. This goes in many directions besides simply racism. Look how much our society has changed their reactions and perceptions towards the LGBT community. It will likely never be perfect but it can be a lot better. Man, people who don't get this are useless anyhow, who cares what they think? They are the minority and don't represent any real or powerful group of voters in this country. The other thing to remember is that every single race is full of racism. In the end, we all have to get over it or we will never move forward. I can remember as a child saying that slavery and racism was the worst thing that ever happened to America. It and continues to be. I pray that, as a people, we can learn to get past it eventually.

 

And by the way, I will never stop loving the NBA or jazz music. At this point, I support the players 100% but I worry that enough others might not and that it could change the game. What I hope happens is that instead of the game being changed, people will change and things will become better.

 

Should one be able to disrespect the police though? Because often people do get arrested for just simply saying "**** you", or giving an officer the bird. That's not a crime, but I've witnessed that before.

 

Wow, we have a passionate bunch here!

I'm just glad to have my Lakers back.

With respect to the issues, I'll be doing my talking on November 3rd.

 

I agree it's best to not be an ***hole in general, but I guess I expect a lot more restraint from the police who are suppose to be trained professionals. Like if you are so easily rattled by someone simply giving you the middle finger, I don't know if I want you to have a gun and a badge that gives you the ability to legally end someone's life.

When the civil unrest first happened in early June, I remember talking to someone I knew from HS who is now a deputy in LASD and he basically said something to the effect of "We're doing the best we can here, give us a break...Everyone's busting our balls." and also "You think I signed up for having to say goodbye to my wife every day not knowing if I'm going to come home? If you think you can do a better job, why don't you sign up?"....and my answer was "Um yea you did sign up for that". Stuff like this just makes me feel like a lot of cops (not all) don't want to take any accountability for their actions, don't see any room for improvement, are incredibly defensive, and whine about being the victim when they have all the power.