Coronavirus - What Are The Implications?

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  1. KuzmoBall17

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    Every minute not a day there is more and more evidence that is all BS and they creating vaccine for something that never existed.And BTW I had BCG vaccine
    Dr.Fauci is 80 .He should be retired a long time ago.He can 't tell me what to do .I would not trust him to walk my dog if I had one.
    If he wants he can vaccine his entire body and all his relatives with different ones.
    If he would be fired tomorrow we could restart season right away
     
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    #competingagendasforthewin
     
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    You drink too much on quarantine.I don't believe in any conspiracy theories and definitely not paranoic
     
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    LOL.Do you know that masks doesn't do s*** and no f***ing flu or whatever that people are assymptomatic you can ask that any medical student but you believe them because they told you on CNN or FOX news
     
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    How about you respond to what I responded? After you state there is this big BS conspiracy, you come back and state you don't believe in conspiracies. Stay on topic .... how bout that?
     
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    ok, I'm going outside for some vitamin D, and to the store for vitamic C and A, and some leafy greens. That's all one needs.

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    For what it's worth, I do agree our medical system is designed to train doctors to be drug pushers. They treat symptoms, and not cures. Very few doctors care enough to dig deeper to the actual cause to solve health issues. Are there bigger agendas at play? Probably.

    I found that Dr. Shiva well spoken and in command of the topic, passionate, and a likely presidential candidate if he looked more like Captain America. I hope he achieves political success in his home state, as he clearly understands economics as well, and understands the damage Obama did to the economy. He put the US on a terrible trajectory, and it fit right into some other pretty awful agendas out there. Trump has just slowed the pace of our inevitable decline, but it's coming. It happens to every world leader over time. Our turn is coming, and it could get ugly.
     
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    You can call it how you like conspiracy ,BS ,but economy is in drain health wise nothing really changed

    Johns Hopkins University who shows us all covid data it is all math predicted on some model it is not real data.I told you just don't watch CNN for 24 hours
    Date: May 1999
    Purpose: to establish the Bill & Melinda Gates Institute for Population and Reproductive Health to strengthen leadership and institutions in the developing countries
    Please Show me some data from Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles
     
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    You are arguing with me over something I never said. I simply pointed out with my first

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    #competingagendasforthewin

    With Dr. Shiva running for office soon and having one opinion and agenda, Fauci certainly an agenda and a different opinion and I bet if you talk to all the doctors and nurses risking their lives with inadequate quantities of protective gear .... they are going to have their opinions and the agenda of staying alive as some of them have already died due to this "conspiracy" theory of yours the virus and search for a vaccine for big pharma are all a hoax. That is of course if you believed in conspiracy theories which you don't.

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    Personally I think Dr. Shiva makes a lot of sense. So do the doctors on the front lines and so do the tests in France show great promise with the generic malaria drug cocktail that the opponents of Trump will never want to give any credence. But please don't jump to conclusions about things I didn't even say.


     
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    Dude. Get off me. You’re the one who made me question what you meant. Go back and read those two quotes of yours that are complete opposites. I just indicated there are competing agendas playing out. Not for the good of the country.
     
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    Dude ,I just miss NBA,NHL and all sport
    I have nothing against you or somebody else. It just too f***ing frustrating that it is all fuss about nothing
     
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    Remember when the "experts" were comparing Covid-19 to "Spanish Flu". Millions were estimated to die even with social distancing measures included in the prediction model.

    That's why the lockdowns were ordered in the first place.

    Not even the MSM is bringing up "Spanish Flu" anymore. They know they'd be laughed at if they did.
     
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    #tinfoilin'

    The video also mentions that the virus comes from China. Interesting.
     
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    :Laugh:Now donkey ,birds and fruits tested positive somewhere in Africa
     
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    Remember this

    The US Food and Drug Administration has issued an emergency use authorization for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat coronavirus patients.

    However, there is little scientific evidence that they are effective in treating Covid-19

    It is another BS. Dr Fauci knew that drug treats coronavirus since 2005
    May 4,2020

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

    How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak – caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV – the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks
    The Virology Journal – the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health – published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading – get ready for this – “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, “We report…that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

    Of course you can go to your restroom wearing gloves and masks ,but there is something definitely smells fishy;
     
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    Good stuff and good reporting. I am Highly suspicious of the exclusion of the generic, easily produced and inexpensive cocktail treatment to the 24/7 scientific and Media discussions. Which was having the same kinds of or quicker successes under the elite French doctor or professor.

    Side effects? We talking about possible side effects when the odds are good they might die on the ventilator? These same potential side effects they tell me about 6 to 7pm every night for every single advertised drug? The names and conditions are hideous but yet they passed the FDA. We talking about possible side effects??

    EDIT .... These thoughts above were written before I even watched the video @revgen linked a couple posts above. So in addition to current actual high % of success we have this knowledge of its effectiveness from 15 years ago coming from this same guy’s mouth, now not acknowledging it? My take was more than right. This is criminal and immoral as f*** if accurately reported.
     
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    Right now, I’m still skeptical that hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective to implement on a large scale for the current strain of Covid. Yet alone that it had already been demonstrated to be safe/effective for 15 years. Reminder that coronavirus is more of a general category. Covid-19 is a type of coronavirus that has recently emerged.

    Fauci is being painted by the Trump corner as the enemy. Seems to me that he represents the scientific community that has been pushing for lockdowns, and so the goal is to paint him as the boogeyman responsible for the economic struggles. Not sure I trust an unlinked article that seems to specifically portray Fauci as some nefarious criminal that is knowingly hiding good treatment options. What even would be the logic behind such a conspiracy?

    The TV show clip revgen posted is interesting. In a vacuum, a pandemic is a good premise for a TV show conflict. Coronavirus is a family of virus we’ve know about for a while, for which it’s been known that anti-malarial have some level of effectiveness against. Many viruses originate from China.

    So I could see a writer coming up with all those individual pieces.

    But since when do mid-tier TV shows care about scientific accuracy. Most of the time they spout random lingo that doesn’t actually make sense because they think the audience won’t know enough to care.

    So that show getting so many details about our current situation right is fascinating. I don’t think it’s anything conspiratorial, but definitely interesting.
     
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    I had mentioned that I had very bad “flu” symptoms in mid-January that I was hospitalized for. But tested negative for the flu and they chalked it up to “some sort of virus”.

    Also over the past few months, my feet and toes have been red, swollen, and itchy. Googling the symptoms, I came across “chilblains” which looked to be what I had. But that’s usually caused by cold weather which I haven’t been in. Thought it might be athletes foot but anti-fungal meds didn’t seem to make a difference.

    Now I’m hearing that this actually might be a Covid symptom!

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coro...0200503-md5a2suohrdvbmxem3exmf255a-story.html

    Becoming more convinced that I already had this. Would love to get an anti-body test, and I think that would be an interesting data point for the medical community to better understand the timeline and range of symptoms for this virus.
     
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    should we permaban you in case it's contagious? Just be be proative?
     
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