2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

and of course i'm with weezy on the weirdness of this forum lately. i guess it's because the clippers are the title favorite right now? s*** happens, folks. kawhi decided to make them relevant, and there was nothing we could do about it. whatever FO you wanted, it wasn't going to bring kawhi. i'm guessing two years from now, people might even be glad it didn't, tbh.

the clips are thirsty and have emptied the chamber to get the title this year. i would, too, if my superstar had a calcifying thigh that required he sit out 30 games per season as a rule.

we didn't have a chamber to empty after years of tanking and cap space-chasing. we're super fortunate to have two top-level nba players and a group of role players who have found their way enough to have the second-best record in the league.

the tantrums about not getting harkless and collison or...whomever was chucked aside by bad teams this week...are kind of hard to understand. the tantrums about not trading two rotation players for marcus morris or derrick rose are also hard to fathom.

we've got a puncher's chance at a title this year without any of that. i think we'll add somebody, but the truth is, that somebody probably won't supplant who's already here. and that's ok. literally everyone in the west is still looking up in the standings at this s***pile.

 

i mean, everyone's been saying this since even prior to the season. it's pretty clear that's not happening. rondo has the respect of the coach and star players, for better and worse. we're living here.

also, we haven't exactly torn it up when he's been unavailable (which was something i expected) and haven't seen).

 

Not everyone has been saying it; they're have been people who have defended Rondo; either way, Vogel needs to get his head out of his a** and reduce his mins.

 

Stop rushing us Kendrick! Didn’t you hear we may have exploratory conversations, in the future. I know the competition has made more promising moves, but the season’s only half over. Sheesh

 

I had faith in Dwight since day one. I have zero faith in Dion. He's dumber than Nick Young or JR.
Would love for him to prove me wrong though.

 

He'll probe you. Just give him a time and place.

 

If you don't count THT and Frank Mason who only played in 2 and 4 games respectively this season, Rondo has the 7th most assists per 36 out the 500 plus NBA players who stepped on a court this season. Seventh out of 504.

Playing like total sh*t... he is better than all but six at producing dimes

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_per_minute.html (click on the assists column, unclick non qualifiers if you don't believe me)

Meanwhile we are paying him a salary that is 297th in the league

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

Even with his inefficiency and sloppy play at times, his assist/turnover ratio is better than Ja Morant's who everyone universally acclaims as the probable rookie of the year. His assist turnover ratio is better than Luka Doncic. His assist turnover ratio is better than Trae Young. It's better than Ben Simmons.

Again, we are paying him 297th...

He's been in the league playing for 14 seasons and we are paying him less than our former two way player Caruso, yet somehow he's the problem as opposed to anyone else on the team?

Do you know who has a worse defensive box plus minus than Rondo?

Our defensive specialist Avery Bradley.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2020_advanced.html (again click off non qualifiers and click on DBPM if you don't believe)

Rondo's PER is better than Caruso, Bradley, KCP, Troy if you don't believe in DBPM. And this is with him playing poorly... not playoff Rondo.

I'm not happy with Rondo's play this season but while we worship at the altar of LBJ and AD, we blame someone we are paying less than Caruso for the failures of this team.

He is 7th in assists per 36, for pete's sake. Out of 500 players.

He has been disappointing, but he is not responsible for our top heavy team for which we gave up all our depth and tradeable assets

God forbid we blame those who actually created this problem.

 

Dude, Rondo sucks.

I don't need to read your dissertation. He is horrible.

Rob signed him; mistake 1. Frank plays him too much. Mistake 2.

He's a third string PG.

And we've had months PRIOR to the Kobe tragedy to correct this problem, and we didn't.

Now? We're probably going to sign a dude who ingested gummy bear edibles and had a panic attack on the job on a team plane.

 

Most of us have known this for months. It is what it is.

Here comes Waiters to save the f****** day.

 

Bingo.

 

I'm more in line with what Cranjis is referring to as the second part - which is: thinking of people higher on the totem pole than they should be i.e. giving Rondo so many mins, not giving Cook more PT, etc.

If that makes sense; with respect to Collison, I thought Rob would have been more tapped in; however, he inquired about Rose, Schroeder, and Dinwiddie.

The argument is we didn't have anybody to trade or just lacked the assets; my counter is: we should have valued our assets more (Zubac, Svi,), and figured out a way to keep our 1st this year.

It's the smaller details that I think Rob has failed; but hey, that could have been Magic, too.

 

Irrespective of what happens this year, we need to make a move for a PG.

I'd go after Dinwiddie again...and I'd hope Rondo just disappeared.

 

To me our biggest issue continues to be our lack of depth and size on the wing. It is a MAJOR problem. The Rondo issue can be resolved by giving Caruso more minutes or kicking the tires on THT for a few games to see how he does with the big boys. We simply cannot win a series vs the Clippers with only Lebron, Green and KCP guarding Kawhi and PG.

 

I worry about this, too. It's one of the other holes.

 

there weren't even good pgs available on the market this summer. it'd kind of a moot point.

giving away zubac and svi was dumb, but that was the end of the dumb moves, imo. conveniently tied to magic's exit, i'll add.

in fact, moving for rose or morris would have been totally magic-johnson-is-your-gm moves.

for all the hand-wringing, i just don't see a lot of better solutions being presented, here or in the press.

almost every single case of monday morning gm-ing comes down to asking for stuff that wasn't possible or was highly improbable.

as for vogel needing to sit rondo...i mean...there's no way he can't know that rondo's hurting us. so either a) he's concerned playing cook will be worse on the court or b) he's concerned about the locker room politics of demoting a player who's very popular with your two stars.

it's a delicate situation, and one i had hoped we avoid by having rondo as an assistant coach. alas, rondo (and AD and lebron) still thinks he can play.