2015 Nba Draft Discussion: Russell, Nance Jr., Brown

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  1. ElginTheGreat

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    Who can blame Okafor? I mean even the Lakers decided they would rather be in LA than Minnesota. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    I think within the next 3 weeks we'll probably know who Minny is taking on draft night, which means we know who we'll be taking. The intrigue is almost squarely on our later picks now. I say we trade them both and try move up into the early 20's or even late teens to snag Anderson or RHJ. I think I'd prefer Anderson. Not quite the athlete RHJ is (granted he's still insane), but Anderson actually has an outside shot. He's much closer to being a 3 and D sf than RHJ at this point. 45% from downtown last season. RHJ was 20% from college three. I could shoot 20% from college 3 after a month of practice....and at 5'7" every shot I take would have to be a rainmaker.
     
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    If the difference between the 27th and 34th pick isn't that much in terms of talent, i'd rather just keep the 34th and trade the 27th for a future pick. With the 34th we can get a player on a non-guaranteed contract (I believe)
     
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    Yeah, I was looking into those two as well. Anderson is more the prototypical 3 and D, and I'm leaning towards him. But something about RHJ says he'll be an elite defender that can guard guys 1-4.
     
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    We need to focus on getting NBA-ready wings with #27 and #34
     
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    Agreed. If there's biters on those picks (and there should be) then I'm totally willing to send those picks out for a veteran and maybe a future pick. We've got Clarkson, Randle, Towns/Okafor, and Tarik Black. Not to mention 2nd tier guys like Kelly and Jabari Brown. That's half the team 24 years old or younger. The only problem is that contract will eat into our ability to offer a max deal. I'm not sure the Lakers are willing to sacrifice their cap space for a veteran at this point.

    Unless they were able to package the picks with Nick Young or something I'm not sure what we want happens. Besides, I'm also super intrigued by George De Paula (formerly George Lucas I believe). Huge hands, good physical profile, and really young. We could mold him into whatever we want and I hear he'll be available around our pick.
     
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    i'm guessing if the lakers keep 34, they try to stash that player, so lucas might be the guy.

    i'd package 34 and 27 to move up to the early 20s and get someone a little better.
     
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    My hope would be putting those two together to move up and get Hollis-Jefferson or Justin Anderson. I like the way those two profile for the pros.
     
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    We need a talent infusion. If we can grab three 1st round quality talents this draft all the better. It does not hurt to have three more young guys on rookie contracts. We are not winning the championship next year anyway. Build a young talented core. Get them some game experience together. Coach them up. Become even more attractive to the right FA the following season. Then, when the time comes for a Ring run you can flip a couple of the young guns for the right Vet piece to complete the puzzle.

    But now, I want to draft the Upshaws, Lucas', etc. that we can get and like the mid 90s team make our squad overloaded with young talent.
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree with this. I know we're not likely to contend right away. Just keep in mind:

    Okafor/Towns- 19
    Randle- 20
    Clarkson- 22
    Black- 22
    Brown- 22
    Kelly- 24
    Late 1st- 20
    Early 2nd- 23ish

    That's more than half a full roster under 25 years old. Not only are we not winning a Championship with those guys, but we're going to lose at least a few winnable games because they're just inexperienced or not ready. I don't disagree about keeping the picks at all, but in FA we better pick up some veterans who can pick up their slack when these guys screw up.

    That's why I'm still very much in favor of signing Mo Williams, DeMarre Carroll, Omer Asik or Robin Lopez, even Jeremy Lin and/or Ed Davis. Obviously I'd love Marc Gasol, Aldridge, or Love, but they're also obviously less likely. We're going to need a lot of veteran leadership and fast. Kobe is going to turn into a glorified babysitter if we don't get him some other oldies. It's also why I think keeping Ronnie Price around would be helpful. Even Boozer if it makes sense.
     
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    I think we have two rookies on the roster next year. Mitch has even hinted that he doesn't anticipate all 3 picks will turn into 3 rookies on our roster next year.

    Luckily we have some flexibly in what we can do with the later picks...
    -package them and trade up
    -sell/trade one of them for cash or future considerations
    -package Young or Hill with one or both to unload a player we might not need or want going into next season
    -stash one of them overseas

    In Mitch I trust
     
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    I'm ok with bringing in some vets as long as we aren't sacrificing too much of our cap flexibility. I like the thought of addressing needs with young guys and then having enough to really make some moves with the big name free agents the next couple of years.

    I can also see guys like Anderson or Hollis-Jefferson being big time contributors in a few years if we can make either of those happen. There is talent to be had at the end of this draft.
     
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    I read somewhere that Kupchak thinks three rookies on the squad can be a bit much. With that said, the possibility of trading one [or both] of the later picks can happen. I'm with TIME though in stockpiling as much young talent. Grow them while adding a steady, veteran presence. We already have solid, more than serviceable complementary players.
     
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    I think we need players that are 25-27 years old, preferably with playoff experience. Player in their 30's would be like father-like figures for these kids, creating too much of an age/generation gap.
     
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    Well the good thing about guys that age is they'll enter their player prime just when the young guys are hitting their stride as athletes. Then the 28 year olds turn into the wily vets as the young guys hit THEIR primes.

    We're 2-3 years from contention anyway. I like this plan. Bring in Carroll/Asik/Lin!
     
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    Or Love or Butler, and Lin :)

    I also like Boozer as a vet. All the rooks/sophs mention him as being very helpful. I think he's a good cop to Kobe's bad cop.
     
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    I'd like to see them move up a little to get Tyus Jones.
     
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    I'm just not sure about him. I think he's got Farmar written on him with hopefully a better head on his shoulders. I'm a little leery of having a PG rotation with a sophomore backed up by a rookie.
     
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    Huh, didn't know Towns also went to the same High School as Bynum too. That's funny.

    Anyways, interesting little excerpt from the former HS coach of both:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-draft-pick-20150521-story.html

    Towns may appear to look like Bynum, but I think mentally Towns is cut from a different cloth and will prove to be a little more involved than Bynum was.
     
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