2015 Free Agent Discussion

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  1. JSM

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    Aldridge may now be SA's top target

     
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    Good stuff, JSM. Thanks. That would make Green my number 1 target in the 'wing' category.
     
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    WHOA! Green is expected to garner 10-12 million this summer??
     
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    Latest on Marc

     
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    Statistically, he's a boss. His win shares were 3rd best - behind Duncan and Leonard. His Value Over Replacement Player was .1 behind Duncan and tied with Leonard. He's had good health, is going to be 28, and averaged about 10-4-2-1-1. It's not crazy. I'd rather give him that money than Rondo.

    Can we realistically give a wing that money? Well, it all depends upon the draft.
     
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    I'm honestly shocked. I thought he'd get something like 6-8 million or so; about half of that report...

    I think he's a good player, but he's born a lot out of that system. The team that gives up 10-12 million for him is going to be overpaying a lot I think.
     
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    Given what we pay Swaggy, the $8M is probably about right. I'm just curious to see what's going to happen to salaries over the next three seasons.
     
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    I'll put it like this with whom we pay; I'm more inclined to overpay for someone now with the emergence of Clarkson.
     
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    True I suppose. I think a lot of those rumors are agent driven though. I'm not so sure salaries explode for mid-tier guys the same way they're predicting it to.
     
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    Where's Snakell when you need a salary prediction? :cool:
     
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    Your over under(3.5) for the share that the players will demand from (BRI) in the next lock out?? Will the spike in salary cap produce a chain reaction between the teams looking for middle FA? Question for Larry Coon.

    Larry's Response

    The players’ narrative is that they took one for the league in the last negotiation — they already were at 57 percent, but the league was unsustainable at that time due to a variety of factors. By agreeing to 50 percent, they helped right the ship and make it sustainable. Today it’s a different picture — most teams are in the black (and when teams aren’t it’s a result of mismanagement), improved revenue sharing has fixed a lot of the problems, team valuations have skyrocketed (hello, Steve Ballmer), and the league is going to be drowning in new money starting next year with the new TV deal. In other words, the problems are fixed, the emergency is over, and they want to regain what they gave up in the last negotiation. I can see them coming to the table asking for a return of their previous 57 percent.

    The one interesting thing about the mid-level exceptions is that they aren’t tied to revenues. They are a fixed amount for the life of the agreement. For example, the non-taxpayer mid-level will be about $5.63 million in 2016, up from about $5.46 million, even though the cap is expected to rise by about $22 million. With the cap going up that far (and with teams having 2016 circled on their calendars), there will be plenty of cap room to go around. The top-level free agents will get the max, of course. But there will be so much cap room left over and so much competition, that the next tier of players will get the max as well, and probably the tier after that. By that point you’re probably looking at what you’d consider to be mid-level talent. So the price of mid-tier talents will likely go up significantly.

    The remaining teams — those without cap room — will still have their exceptions, but the talent won’t be there to spend it on. However, since the exceptions didn’t go up commensurate with the increase in the cap, these exceptions will now be value contracts — i.e., the lower-tier players will receive what is currently mid-level money.
    However, we won’t be able to project how this will actually play out until later this year, when the 2015 free agents have all signed and we can see how teams are aligned heading into 2016.
     
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    Now we have a better idea of what we'll be looking at in free agency. Come on down Jimmy Butler or Danny Green + a backup PG.
     
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    FA's will see that there is something being built here and will want to be part of it. It's not them anymore we will chase, it's them chasing US.
     
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    Now that we have our center of the future all we need is sf and sg after Kobe retires.

    Go after Middleton and Draft justin Anderson with either pick 27 or 34 we need a sg/sf
     
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    Yep. I see the Lakers drafting Okafor or Towns then signing Butler immediately to a max deal. I see Chicago matching it, but Green and Carroll will wait until Kawhi and Butler are gone.

    The Lakers will end up with Towns/Okafor, Carroll/Green, and hopefully a backup PG like Mo Williams.
     
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    That's what I say...
     
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    Yep grab a SF in free agency. Plus a backup vet PG like Williams. Lock down Ed Davis and let Hill go. Keep Tarik Black, too.
     
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    Honestly, I only lock down Ed Davis if we have 6-7 million to spare after all the FA stuff settles. We could potentially have Okafor/Randle/Sacre/Black/Kelly all signed for 11.7 million or so. Not sure I want to sign Davis to a 7-9 million a year contract when we already have a pretty decent stable of bigs. And that's not counting what we do with the 27th and 34th pick. The mock drafts have quite a few bigs around where we are picking. We may choose to roll with Black and whoever we grab at 27 for 2 million a season (combined) to back up our new frontcourt as opposed to inking a backup center/pf for 4/26 million.

    Oh, and Jordan Hill is probably hating life right now. There ain't no way he's getting 10 million next season now. He's definitely getting dumped I would think.
     
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    Jordan is completely gone now. We're about to get a kid who should be approximately as good as him, younger, and at less than half the price. The only reason we'd pick up that option is to trade him somewhere.

    I don't see Davis costing that much by the way. As well as he played for us, he's got plenty of holes in his game. He showed that he's at least a rotation player in this league, but not a starter. He's too short to play heavy minutes at Center, but has almost no PF skills to speak of. I think 6-7 million should pretty much do it unless another team like Detroit wants to throw bigger money at him (which is possible since Monroe is certainly leaving). I think the Lakers really could keep him for 4/20 million and that's a bargain. Maybe 4/24 million would be as high as we'd need to go, but he said he wants to be here. We're the first team to give him a legitimate role/opportunity and if he stays there's no reason that'd change. I'd love to bring him back so we have depth behind our rookie big man, a guy who is extremely competent and hard working, and if we get him at a bargain when the cap blows up we're going to be absolutely stacked.

    I still can't shake the feeling though that the Lakers now are going to be brimming with confidence. I wonder if they stick to our plan or swing for the fence for someone like Love despite the fact that we're already deep in that area. I'd rather throw a bunch of cash at Carroll (assuming all RFAs get matched) and bench depth still, but I'm not sure that'll be their take.
     
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    OR...imagine if we get Towns AND land Gasol?

    That would be a solid twin towers that would certainly work well.
     

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