Official Training Camp/Pre-season Discussion Thread 2019-2020

Hard for me to get past Morey here though. He HAS to know better. Like, I get everything else going on here but as an Exec on a team with so many ties over there he's just got to know better.

I remain surprised he made this kind of blunder honestly.

Crazy how much damage one throwaway tweet has caused.

 

Well .... not necessarily in a vacuum. On top of the Ball family and Donald Trump.

 

Can't fault anyone but the authoritarian regime here. The complete freedom you take for granted is not available anywhere else.

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There is a very simple solution to this whole China mess

 

All this star-alliance around HK? Not going to happen. For one simple, 4 letter word. Nike. Imagine Chinese government cutting ties with Nike. LOL

 

yeah, i've been beating this drum. morey acolytes can't handle that he just made a pretty stupid mistake, trying to make into some chess game only he's playing.

 

Right. ive Had the same debate with some folks but it generally ends when I ask them if Morey would still send that tweet if he knew all this was going to happen. The amount of money this could cost his team and the whole league is unreal.

I don’t see any easy way out of it especially with the politicians now fully engaged.

just bad all around from a guy who definitely knows better

 

Just come back and have the games in Vegas, have one in LA and one in NY, hell or play at Disney World.

 

Freedom of speech (which I believe whole-heatedly in) aside, Morey's timing is beyond horrible. As Doc Rirers correctly said, "freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences". Couldn't Morey have said this 2 months ago when the NBA would be prepared for the backlash, and could back out of the trip there, not after our celebrities are already over in cukoo-land. Congrats Morey, you managed to expose WHAT THE ENTIRE WORLD ALREADY KNEW that China is completely bonkers in regards to human rights and freedom of expression. Terrible timing.

Dennis doesn't realize the US uses his foreign political associations as a gauge of who the craziest world leaders out there are.




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They can fly over here just takes an hour and a half, I'm sure Bron can organize a pick up game in a jiffy

 

Why the hell are we risking our players safety?

Get them the hell out of there please

 

Just call up Sun Yue for photo ops and we should be good.

That tweeting s*** forever getting people in trouble. It strikes again. Darryl Morley should have DM’d.

 

Waiting for the headlines to say that China has arrested all members of the Lakers and Nets, along with Adam Silver and all his cronies.

Wouldn't that be weird.

 

Doesn't China realize how horrendous and shockingly insecure this makes them look. One milquetoast tweet, quickly deleted, and THIS is their response? I guess brutal authoritarians gonna brutal authoritariate.

 

China wouldn’t war a real war

 

Communist party doesn't give a s***.

 

China = Honey Badger?

 

As one of the only members of LB (probably the only one, as others are either too American or too young) to grow up in a totalitarian communist state, I can tell you the following:

1. they don't give a s***,

Not in a honey badger kind of way, but simply because any "normal" (as in: not horrendously failing to do even basic s***) totalitarian state is, by design, a bureaucracy. Which means that many of the decisions are made based on a set of rules, written or otherwise (think of them as insticts any functioner develops to be successful).

So, often there are different branches of that bureaucracy that are responsible for different actions. One for organizing the games, other for spying on the participants and another for making sure there is no BS... and they don't always communicate.

2. most believe in their cause

It's amazing how effective the propaganda really is. I've seen, first hand, otherwise smart, critically-thinking people blindly adher to the opinion of the state, because this is what they grew up with

3. they think in terms of internal perception just as much

While the sentiment of "do they not understand how much of asswipes they appear to be" is a correct one (to an extent, see 1.), sometimes it is even more important to preserve the internal perception, i.e. how citizens see them. Showing signs of weakness in that regard is a big no-no.

Consider USSR and their persecution of dissidents. Among those there were real dissidents, those who openly opposed and criticized the state: writes, filmmakers, journalists. There also were people who were persecuted for sharing an anekdote or a picture. It used to be called "samizdat", an portmanteau for "extra-state publishing", where literature or other art works were created and distributed not via the official state-controlled channels . Quite often there was no distinction of the crime between the two and people went to prison/gulag-esque settlements for sharing a comic strip or a work of an author, together with the author.

Because perception is king and allowing to share these works would make them appear weak, opening the possibility for more and for the eventual uprisal. Funnily enough it never happened quite like that. Instead there was Gorbachev in '85 loosening the grip and Eltzin and his band in '91 blowing it up from the inside.

Side note:

That brings me to an interesting observation. Had Morey been a TWolves exec, this would have probably been a much smaller issue. But he is an executive for one of 2 most famous franchises in China (the other one being, duh, the Lakers)... which means that his actions are much more visible to the "average" Chinese person (with Twitter being blocked and all) and as a result have a much higher impact

 

isn't a big part of the nationalist mindset that previous regimes were "too weak" in response to foreign aggression? like my mother on my 1st birthday, they're going after a cockroach with a hammer.