Lakers VS Slippers Discussion

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  1. Wino

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    Gimme a hug Kawhi!!!!!

    Yeah, about that ....... just sit down man, keep yo hands to yo'self!!
     
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    Well Patrick is a rat and Bald Eagles eat rats.
     
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    Christmas day. Can't wait.
     
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    I would expect Bradley gets the nod in any vs Clips games, he has motivation, Doc didn't use him right at all. he's not a short jumpers guy.I think he really wants to stick it to them and also sharing that feeling is AD and Lebron for the sham that was free agency.

    We need Iggy though. Specifically for these guys.
     
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    yeah, add iggy, and they should fear us. right now, it's an interesting chess match. everybody thinks doc pwns, but vogel's done alright in his career and has never had this talent level. it's an opportunity for him.
     
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    I thought he was Gates buddy from Harvard, devoted his professional life to Microsoft and is still a significant shareholder. Heck his MSFT shares alone are worth like $40B. How is that not self- made? Did he inherit a bunch from elsewhere?
     
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    this is what I see:

    https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/steve-ballmer-6404.php

    Steven Anthony "Steve" Ballmer is an American businessman who served as the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Microsoft from January 2000 to February 2014. Prior to becoming the CEO he held a number of high profile positions at Microsoft, heading several departments including operations, operating systems development, and sales and support. He had also served as the Executive Vice President, Sales and Support, and President of Microsoft. As a college friend of Bill Gates, the co-founder of Microsoft, Ballmer was one of the early employees of the company. In fact, he was the first business manager hired by Gates. Born into an affluent family, Steve Ballmer grew up to be an exceptionally brilliant student with extraordinary skills in mathematics. He graduated from Harvard College and worked for a while at Procter & Gamble before joining the Stanford Graduate School of Business. He then dropped out in order to take up a position at his friend Bill Gates’ new venture and went on to enjoy phenomenal success at Microsoft. Retired from Microsoft following an illustrious career, Ballmer now focuses on another one of his passions—basketball—and is currently the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers of the National Basketball Association (NBA).

    • After completing his education he joined Procter & Gamble as an assistant product manager, a post he held for two years. Then he joined the Stanford Graduate School of Business in 1979.

    • Ballmer’s college friend Bill Gates had dropped out of school to co-found Microsoft. After completing his first year at the business school, Ballmer approached his friend hoping for a summer job at his company. Gates instead asked Ballmer to take a full-time job managing the company's operations.

    • In 1980, Ballmer left the Stanford Graduate School of Business and joined Microsoft in June, becoming the first business manager to be hired by Gates. One of his earliest roles was to recruit competent employees for the growing firm. Despite not being a programmer himself, Ballmer possessed the knack to identify potential talent.

    • Soon after, Microsoft signed a contract to create an operating system for IBM’s new line of personal computers. The co-founders of the company, Gates and his partner Paul Allen, busied themselves with the technical aspects of the company while Ballmer was assigned the responsibility of handling the business.

    • Ballmer reorganized Microsoft’s partnership into a corporate structure in 1981 after the company was incorporated. Accordingly, Gates came to hold 53 percent of the equity, Allen 35 percent, and Ballmer 8 percent. He also developed a stock option plan for the employees.
    • During the early 1980s Allen became ill with cancer and left the company in 1983. Now it was just Gates and Ballmer in charge of the corporation. Ballmer led the development of the operating system, the core of the company’s business, in the 1980sThe year 1986 marked an important point in Ballmer’s career. Microsoft became a publically held company and Ballmer became a multimillionaire. The success of the company was primarily driven by the success of the Microsoft Office suite of applications, comprising word-processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software.
    • Over the next several years he held many important positions in the company and in February 1992, he was made the Executive Vice President, Sales and Support. In this position he led the development of the .NET Framework.
    • In July 1998 he was promoted to President of Microsoft, a position he held till February 2001. Ballmer was officially named the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) in January 2000.
    • As the CEO Ballmer handled the company finances and daily operations. Under his leadership, Microsoft diversified its product range to include products such as electronic game console system Xbox and the Zune family of portable media players.
    • Microsoft registered a phenomenal increase in profits during Ballmer’s tenure as CEO. The corporation’s annual revenue surged from $25 billion to $70 billion, while its net income increased 215 percent to $23 billion.
    • Ballmer announced his retirement in 2013 and stepped down from the position of CEO of Microsoft in February 2014. He stepped down from the company Board of Directors in August 2014.
    Looks to me like he was born silver spoon, but there is no mention that he had financial backing on his way to making an impact at Microsoft. Might be more to the story, but I have no idea. Not sure it's worth debating very heavily. Good to have a respectable owner of an NBA team. The Clippers were the laughingstock of the league for so long.

    Yeah, I was comfortable with that, but just like you want to face the best when winning championships, I'm not at all intimidated by having competition in my back yard, You have to go through the best to be the best no matter where they are located. But if I'm him, I'm renaming that franchise and trying to get rid of the stink. Seriously. What good does the Clippers have associated with them?
     
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    Well, I found some cheap toilet paper with their logo on it, works for me.
     
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    I guess I am not seeing the silver spoon angle yet. He went to Harvard, lots of folks do, poor and rich. Heck, Ias a poor kid from the Midwest I got accepted there for grad school and got offered a partial ride. He got lucky in meeting Gates, but I suspect the risk those guys took, smaller paychecks they drew in lieu of stock/ stock options and hours they worked in the early days was enormous.
     
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    It clearly says he grew up in an affluent family

    That’s what I understand silver spoon to mean. Doesn’t mean he didn’t take the reigns from a favorable start or not deserve credit.

    Just posting what I found. He’s 10 mil x the owner Donald Sterling was, so that’s good.
     
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    The original suggestion was/ is that his wealth was not earned, but rather inherited. "Grew up in an affluent family" is not the same as, say, a lazy kid who dropped out of college, failed as a business owner, failed as a horse trainer and then inherited part of an NBA franchise (ie, silver spoon). Looks to me like Ballmer worked his tail off, and with alot of luck, parlayed his stock interest into billions. That's called the great American dream, nothing for him to be ashamed of nor for anyone else to ridicule him for.
     
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    I think the original suggestion was to look beyond Wikipedia, so I’m assuming there is more to the story that not everyone knows.

    But yes, so far I don’t see anything indicating much of a correlation between his situation and Jeanie Buss’ growing up besides potentially having wealthy parents.

    While I don’t feel the need to dump on him, I also am not a fan of rah-rah motivational guys. Yelling and screaming doesn’t do it for me. I wish him lots of success, and for us to smash him when he’s at the pinnacle of his success. I’d like to see him cry on national TV again.

    The buzzard mascot needs to die too.
     
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    Hey, leave Steve alone. He's a goofball but a good guy in my opinion.
     
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    ...10 x the better people Sterling was, so that's good (wackiness aside).
     
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    can't figure out the argument regarding ballmer.

    is it that ballmer wasn't already rich? i mean, he grew up quite comfortably, and no, it's not easy for poor people to go to harvard under any circumstances. but no, he's not an heir(ress).

    is it that making a lot of money means you're great? because i disagree. it's often contraindicative if anything.

    is it that (very successfully) piggybacking off your friend's success in tech means you'll be really good at operating a basketball franchise? who's playing gates in this scenario?

    i don't really care one way or another about ballmer. he strikes me as a goofball, but he seems to stay out of his basketball people's way, which is all i want from an owner. jeannie does, too, but she doesn't understand how to hire outside her circle of trust, which is a huge problem.

    so, in all, ballmer is probably the preferred owner, but not because he made a bunch of money or how he made it.
     
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    Someone indicated Ballmer = Jeanie

    Others disputed that. Some facts have been provided showing that seems not to be the case, and I haven't seen anything to the contrary yet.

    I have no horse in this race, but the conversation made me curious, so I looked up what I could or cared to and posted. Nothing more really.
     
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    JK, I don't know that anyone is piling on him at all. I think he's had mostly compliments. But I am ok seeing him cry.

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    What? do I have to be nice to Steve Ballme on a Lakers site??
    I personally can't stand the guy.

    Rah rah, shish koom bah
    Stick him with a needle
    Stick him with a pin
    Gooooooo Steve

    As in go away to Seattle!!!
     
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    i was just trying to figure out the claims we're disputing and why.

    i think he's a tool, but i'd probably take him over our ownership group at this point.

    i will say that chuck the condor actually would concern me were i a clips fan, though...i mean...what is that? why? who's doing this? why wasn't it stopped?
     
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    looks like the clips are gonna hire ty lue as the top AC to rivers

    good news for the lakers. lebron's got a spy on the other side
     

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