2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

You with us or agin us?

 

Not hoping anybody bad luck. But I see this backfiring on them both. They both will be 34 when their contract max out and the league sees what going on with the Russ Westbrook situation after getting all that money and having to trade him. Let's face it, these guys are just the total opposite of LeBron when it comes to staying healthy.

 

Not sure we should try again in two years.

 

@therealdeal before the Kawhi decision, it was the clips, Dallas and us with significant cap space. Danny was only offered deals by us and Dallas (3yrs/36m; 30m guaranteed). Knowing that, we should have known that other teams were performing s&t deals and needed to dump salary. As a team with cap space, we should have been planning for that as a Kawhi contingency (see cLips taking in a pick with Hackless or Memphis taking in a pick with Iggy). It's your preference to give Danny and Kcp 23m of our cap, but I would have done it different.

Now let's look at the Kcp deal: he earns full bird rights with us next summer. As a result, his current deal holds a no-trade clause and if he consents on a trade, he and his new team lose his bird rights. The only we he doesn't is by agreeing to opting into the 2nd year making it guaranteed...so now the receiving team will take back Kcp as a 2yr deal, not a potential expiring one.

Difficulty in trading Green: his contract by itself only brings back a max of 19.5m in salary so it's not enough to bring back a star. Also teams that want to trade for him will look to use him as a final piece in a playoff push, but that's his value to us so he's going to be a weird deal to move unless a disgruntled star comes up.

We got nothing to offer for Beal or any other fringe star on the outs, cause we got no assets other than Kuz and a majority Pels controlled future 1st rounders.

We spent 23m on Green & Kcp, which still blows my mind. Dallas was bidding on Green with a 3yr/36m with a partially guaranteed 3rd year (so Dallas's deal was 30m total in guaranteed money just like our deal). Had we gone 3yr/30m, you got 22.9m in cap space left. Boogie signs for 3.5m and you got 21.3m of cap left.

Iggy option:

Make a trade for Iggy (dubs were hardcapped) and get a 1st rounder out of it (top 4 protected in '24, top 1 protected '25, unprotected in '26). Now we're at 4.1m.

Either sign McGee or Kcp to it. AvBradley at the room. Caruso and Cook at vet mins (Cook's current deal is 4m guaranteed over a 2yr/6m deal...so guarantee 4m over two years at the vet min).

Iggy @17m/Green @10m/dubs 1st/'26 Lakers 1st for Beal at the deadline.

So Beal was already difficult as is after the AD trade...so with the way Kcp's deal is now, there's no real to Beal. We can't make a move on that front cause Green/Kuz/Mcgee still isn't enough salary to match.

Harkless/Meyers Leonard or James Johnson option:

Any of these names can be bulked in with either Green or an Iggy trade. Net coming back if we do Harkless/Iggy is 2 1st rounders which makes up the 2 future 1sts we lost in the AD trade.

What do we know about future 1st round picks, cap filler and a young asset (Kuz)? You can trade that for a star later.

Also outside of Johnson, we would have 4m to spend on either Boogie or Mcgee.

Speaking of Johnson, dude's a truck and is a MMA fighter...which is perfect to sub Bron with along Dudz. Unless you think it's wise to have a 34 y/o Bron in high usage situations before the playoffs.

And the benefit from getting into the Harkless trade is that you block another asset the cLips sent out to get George.

All these options were available to Rob as a contingency with our cap space. Hard capped teams were forced to talk to us because of that space, but instead we threw a majority of it to Green/Kcp in a depleted market place. You're good with it. I'm not. To each their own.

Yay!!!!!

He can have the win...just get me a legit prez to admonish R.Pelly from pissing our cap/assets away. He does that and Aliyah-ve it alone.

Funny that some of y'all believe Magic was never on the job but then turn around and say he deserves all the blame for last year. Which is it guys? He there or not there? Anyways he gone now...yet the trend continues.

I'm only bringing up the past as examples to show how Rob treats our assets, negotiates our contracts and can't close deals with our 1st choices (although maybe with Lue and Kawhi, Bron has a little fault at not closing those too).

Anyways, we're riding high with the AD trade and we're in decent hands....till they remove us from their Klutches. Then after that we'll hit a new lowe.

Uh btw, a 34 y/o Bron is going to be playing with more ball in hand...but 23m of our cap was handed to shooters that keep him on the floor with the ball. Nice depth.

 

After the way he handle this I wouldn't. I'd either go after Giannis or if Boggie and AD have taken control and playing well. I'd go after Bradley Beal all things being equal

 

Oh I'd love nothing more than to BEAT that Clipper a** the next 2 years and then take either PG13 OR Kawhi away from them in 2021 and tell them to SHOVE it.

I love that Kawhi didn't sign the full 4-year deal. Yes, he wants that 35% max...but he's for sure keeping his options open. And LAL getting all these guys on 2-year deals to line up with LeBron's opt-out....oh boy. We'll have Giannis, Kawhi, PG13 in 2021 and I don't give a s*** if they're clippers right now...we need to get someone to pair with AD after LeBron is done so that Pelicans picks are sure to be late round picks for the foreseeable future.

 

Dude, you need to relax and try to enjoy the ride. All this negative energy is gonna ruin your health.

 

Dude I was fighting the negative energy here last season. Where were you for that part of the ride?

Worry about getting a trimmer and I'll worry about my health. Thanks haha.

In the meantime, try to discuss my post and any disputes you may have with it.

Btw I'm going to enjoy Bron/AD...but that doesn't mean I gotta ignore list opportunities.

 

ill let lac pay both those chumps their super max, don't want any part of those 2 snakes

 

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I missed this ya’all

 

SO HOLD ON WE MISSING THE BIG PICTURE THEY BOTH HAVE PLAYER OPTIONS IN 2021 THEY ARE GONNA TRY AND SEE IF IT WORKS

 

I was on Lakerground, which became the most negative Lakers site on the web, hence I am here now. I'm here because I am a Lakers FAN not a Lakers HATER. This concept that complaining ad-nauseum about the Lakers makes you a better fan is kind of a weird internet phenomena. I understand that sometimes we gotta say things that need to be said. I'm not totally on board with Jeannie at this point, but dang, the team is looking pretty good. They have made some huge improvements. Are you ever going to be able to enjoy them?

Honestly, I really dislike the level of complaining that has gone on over this team. That said, I do understand that the Buss family has brought much of this on themselves. Ultimately, we can all blame Jerry Buss because he trusted his kids to work well together and keep the team moving in the same direction he did. Certainly, on a historical perspective, Jim Buss was a disaster for this team. I have little doubt if he was still running this team, things would be infinitely worse. I think the problems between Jeannie and Jim set this team back about 5 years. I believe we are still recovering from it. I still believe that Jeannie has a few things to learn and she will probably learn the hard way. As long as she learns, I can roll with it, especially when she is putting teams like our current team together. I think she is getting a ton of really negative press that doesn't really reflect the realities of the Buss family. However some of it does stick, hence the things I believe will cause her problems and she will eventually need to learn from. At this point, I am willing to give her that opportunity without attempting to derail her. If she runs head first into a couple more major gaffs, well, at some point I will get on board with selling the team but until that moment, I am a Lakers team fan and want them to succeed. All this complaining by fans is hurting the brand, hurting perception of the team and hurting our chances of attracting new FA talent.

Bottom line is, the Lakers have a great source of revenue, if the fans support the team and they spend their money on the players, they are going to attract great players. The press is always going to hate on us because they work for other agendas. We aren't paying them off, don't think the Buss family ever will do that, not their MO. The minute that we support the press' version of the Lakers,this team is doomed. To me that sucks.

My belief is that IF anyone is a fan of the Lakers who cannot support the Lakers, then it is time for them to move on. If ALL anyone can do is find disfunction and negativity, then I wish they would just get offline and sulk in their own home by themselves. The real fans want to be able to enjoy the ride.

And I say that, knowing full well that I could end out being one of those fans, should s*** hit the fan down the road. However right now, I see us having two of the top 5 players in the league and some pretty decent roll players. Yeah, it's a bummer we didn't attract Kawhi but we still have a very good situation and if we can sit and complain about what we have just accomplished because IT'S NOT ENOUGH, well I think it is time to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask why have we become such spoiled children.

 

He got played, used and looks like a fool. He won't admit it though

 

@therealdeal its not obvious I have an ax to grind cause I don't even know what the f*** that means haha.

So you admit we need to find a Prez in a couple years, but why if Rob did a "fabulous job".

Keep with broad strokes. I criticized areas where Magic went wrong and applauded Rob in other areas. Likewise, what he did with the cap in terms of creating it over 2 years to give the majority of it to Green and Kcp seems like hardly a "fabulous job". But I guess you got that ax to grind (wait did I even use that term right?).

Yeah I'm dropping this cause you aren't willing to admit to Rob's transgressions.

@Wino welcome to the site, look who authored the AD thread and I'm sure you'll have a good idea of how excited I am to have AD. When the resident optimist went on hiatus, I took his stead here.

I'm not one to go with the majority cause how does that spark discussion? Magic is my guy but I called out his poor decisions before. I just didn't pile on like the majority did. When Rob was getting piled on, I didn't partake in that s*** either.

So I appreciate your post and I'm a positive, optimistic guy that wants to give Rob a chance. But I absolutely believe we blew an opportunity to not add to our leadership when Magic quit on us. The silver lining is he gave us a chance to right that wrong and we passed.

 

Never!!!

 

No to Sasha

 

??? Another trade for the clips?