Rob Pelinka Discussion: He's Scrambling

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    With a useful and former all star center back in trade (that we should have kept) to replace Moz's garbage a** plus the pick that became Kuzma. Whatever Guy. Who knows what under the gun Mozgov dump looks like last summer if needed. Especially with teams lining up to help the Lakers with our popularity around the league and most hated guy (allegedly) in the league, Pelinka. Plus Deng still there as well at start of last summer.
     
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    so league dont like dealing with Lakers, and Rob supposedly has bad rep with other teams and not likeable....so 2 wongs make it wight? :Crazyartest: and answer my question, name me 1 GM that CANT unload a bad deal with a former #2 pick showing decent potential? NYK dumped nearly 60 million between Lee/Hardaway Jr AND got back a former #9 pick and another future 1st for a Zingis that tore his acl and now facing rape allegations
     
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    As opposed to your "declaration" from your armchair that it all should have been done differently and any other GM would have handled it better. There's a difference.
     
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    naw, my gripe is ALL of it, whether he's really hated around the league or not, he is INEXPERIENCED and you trying to use Myers when I use that 1yr experience as asst GM you blow that off as "big dea" well just 1yr makes can make all the difference....and Rob 1yr was under Magic (quite another issue altogether) probably made him that much worse...simple question, what has Rob done within the last 2 yrs that makes you think he "deserves" this promotion?
     
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    Pelinka is neither a bad nor a good GM. He is an amateur and it shows at times. His intentions are generally good, but he has strained relationships with many agents and some FOs that make operating at the right level difficult. I was particularly troubled about how he would speak about Aaron.
     
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    So the "Pelinka's Daily Mana" Bible act is a farce?
     
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    Well one one phone call I heard him say "Aaron is a f****** moron and a pathetic excuse of an agent." Excuse my language. Also called him a leech for stealing clients from other agents, among other things.
     
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    LOL. But we knew this weeks ago (well, most did)
     
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    Let’s be real, we’ve known this since at least the trade deadline when NO wouldn’t answer his calls. Then he trades Zubac to dump Beasley (who could have been waived) and a garbage “stretch “. I would love to hear what more Jefferson has to say, he’s alluded to this sort of thing before on the jump and other espn shows.
     
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    Maybe the Kurt weaseling into the FO Mr Rambis has mentioned?
     
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    Probably partially, but I would guess if it’s LeBron and Luke (to a lesser extent Lue as he’s only just dealt with him) that it’s talk of the sheer incompetence that’s going on. It’s not like we don’t know about it already because we all have eyeballs, but I’d still love to hear about how it feels to deal with in specifics from LeBron and Luke themselves, The Shop style. I’d love to hear from Lue how negotiating with Rob is too. I’d enjoy hearing what bible story he told him to justify taking a 3 year deal.
     
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    Yeah, it's a mess. Hearing on LG; "Nash Vegas" saying that John Ireland is telling Jeanie to turn over leadership to Jesse and Joey.

    It's a mess. He also reported about 2 weeks ago (Ireland) that Magic overruled everybody in the Scouting Department to pick "his players..." And John is one of the biggest Lakers apologist I know; Dancing Berry (very highly-respected Mod on LG) PMed a couple of people after the draft was over; and wrote a very concerning piece on his feeling on the whole thing.

    Some of these guys (24,DB,GT) have actual ties, hear things and we'll hear about it after the fact, but we're hearing it from guys who I have witnessed over the years don't just "spread" anything maliciously but will do it months after the fact (normally) and do it in a very responsible way.

    This is stuff that has or is happening right now. It's very disconcerting for most people who have done nothing but show support, loyalty, and love for our team.

    I think all fans just want their Lakers back...
     
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    in fairness, i'm not sure mintz has demonstrated that he's very good at the job. if he was in on the paul george thing, he screwed up. and if he wasn't, he also screwed up. didn't do great for randle, either.
     
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    Nah, let's give him even more power.
     
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    Heard Ireland today on ESPNLA710 that he's done defending the Laker moves because he has no idea what they are doing.
     
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    Yup, they’ve been saying on the Lakers podcast for a while that Magic made them pick Mo Wagner when there were clearly better players available. Why? I don’t even know, Michigan? It’s not Michigan State though, but still, who knows.
     
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    I can shed some light on what Jefferson is likely talking about.

    -With Walton, Pelinka wanted Randle gone at the start of the season, since James was all but confirmed at that point. Of course Magic was big on maintaining the image that the Lakers are loyal to their players (in contrast to the C Bags) so he wanted someone to basically annoy Randle enough to want to leave on his own. So Pelinka had Walton mess with his minutes and starting position until Randle got pissed enough to ask the Lakers to renounce him in the offseason. Walton didn't want to do this but was coerced. Him annoying a Mintz client was icing on the cake.

    -With Lue, Pelinka is the one who was convinced by Kurt to low ball on the years, because Kurt wanted Hollins. Kurt convinced Pelinka that Lue had little options and that giving a 5 year deal to a coach is a big mistake. Because Rambis is a former coach, and Pelinka is inexperienced with coaches, he listened. I can see how Lue dislikes Pelinka.

    -With James, it actually has to do with the Davis trade. Both Magic and Pelinka made numerous blunders. Rich Paul is not blameless here either, but naturally James is not pleased at Pelinka for how he handled it. Now that Lue also was not treated well, it gives him cause to be upset.
     
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