Official Whine, Moan, Complain Thread 19/20-CLOSED "WE CHAMPS!"

it was in a different thread, but this is more response for rodg about why we all pile on tatum. these perceptions can be impactful and damaging. i'm sure once we dump ingram and lonzo for cap space, they'll blow up, too. and by "blow up", i mean basically do what they've been doing here with more opportunity and better teammates.

 

D'Angelo didn't have this kind of success with Brooklyn last year either. The only seasons he was healthy were his rookie year under Boron and this year under Atkinson.

BI and Zo are also having health issues that are holding them back. Are we going to trade them too?

 

all d-lo needed was some time to develop. he would have been this same player in LA, maybe even better playing alongside lonzo. we saw flashes of his talent in his second season

**** you magic. guy is just killing this entire franchise with his stupidity

 

We've already tried really hard. The question is are we going to salary dump them?

 

Redundant but my WMC this morning is every stupid ****ing decision made by the FO for and during this season .... aside from LeBron signed which may even turn out to be the worst. Indefensible every last one.

 

while i agree, by that logic, we can just salary dump ingram, ball, kuz, and hart, too. none project to be the best player on a title team. not by a good sight.

but that stuff only matters if you believe rings are the only goal. wins are the goal. rings come after, maybe, if you're lucky. i think it's hilarious that our management has been focused on contention as we bottom-feed. it's so rare to just jump from s*** to contention. hell, philly basically took this philosophy, have ridden it out to its best conclusion, and are in 4th in the east. they could have finished 4th in the east without all the shameful tanking, imo.

just try to get better, incrementally. these get-rich quick schemes are killing us. had we traded russell for an established young starting-quality player (or had we simply kept him) we'd be in a much better spot right now.

most annoying thing is that mozdeng would be big expirings this coming year (you know, when davis and probably some other disgruntled superstar is going to be moved). now we've got deng's dead cash on the books for a while and will have shed an allstar guard in order to end up in basically the same spot, cap/trade-wise. that seems like a digression, but it's a direct result of the idea that we were going to contend overnight.

 

Lakers keep ruining the one thing they have been good at in this putrid 6 year disaster of a run. Their drafting.

I am not a Randle fan but getting him at 7 was a very good pick.

Dlo 2 , Lonzo 2, BI 2, Kuz 27, Hart 30, Zubac in the 2nd round. I mean, that is some clutch drafting.

The sad thing about writing this is it just hit me that the Lakers could have just focused on building these guys. Even sadder, their games complement each other very well.

Ball
Russell
Ingram
Kuzma
Zubac

Super 6 man Randle

In today's NBA the PF needs to able to shoot. So starting Kuzma over Randle is likely the scenario. Randle would be a star 6th man and start a lot of games during an 82 game season.

Ingram is starting to rev up and I believe will be a consistent shooter, Russell can shoot. Lonzo distributes and runs the offense like he should in a PG oriented offense.

Zubac gives the Lakers a half court game when they need to slow it down. If the Lakers sense a better match up where they need to go faster all game long, then Randle can start at Center.

I'm getting depressed as I am writing this because I feel like the Lakers really screwed themselves when they didnt have to. Just sad.

 

that grouping plus 1 NON James max like a PG could've still been top 4 in the west based on what we seen so bar...as a side note you always like to note how PF need to be able to shoot in modern day nba but Kuz while can hit the 3's is shooting a terrible % for the volume of 3's he takes, Randle is shooting better than him this yr albeit on 2-3 attempts a gm...but I'd rather have my pf being able to hit 3 as more of a threat from there then someone who can chuck 6-8 per gm at a 29% clipp

 

Yep. Stupid buy a team concept. We'd be sitting pretty next year or year after. And love the players on our squad and the type of game we play. Dumb a**es. GS not assured to even win it this year. This is where you and I can both have our different cakes while eating them. That squad with Brolo retained and some excellent, not necessarily star FAs added to the mix (google a beer ..... errrr ..... @abeer3) would be right there with Milwaukee and Philly and Denver with chances to win it all and we'd be IMO infinitely more engaged with our Lakers than going forward with their wet dream of old man LBJ, AD and another star plus every season a revolving door of mercenaries.

The Ring is not the only thing. It's never guaranteed no matter what anyway due to the crapshoot with injuries every team goes through all season and during the 4 rounds of playoffs. What is important is a CHANCE to win a ring every year and hopefully you love watching all your guys on the squad when they get in the game. Like we had before the 3 star plan was put into effect. How much fun to be in that place and have all those guys. FMLakerL.

 

Reading this makes me sad.

 

I wonder if some fans blame Lebron for this

If we didn’t plan to sign him, would we have a much different outlook?

 

hopefully this organization has learned from its past mistakes and doesn't repeat them by giving up so quickly on the kids we still have

 

im willing to bet as soon as draft position is announced magic will be dialing pelicans office all day/night n still offering that same pkg, while begging and pleading for them to accept lol