Official Whine, Moan, Complain Thread 19/20-CLOSED "WE CHAMPS!"

Lakers discussion, where I'm complaining/discussing against hypocritical Laker fans...nah, I'm in the right place.

#ThxForTheMod-estConcernTho
#YouMayHaveLostThePMbutton
#PM@meNextTimeToHelpMeFindMyWay

 

Oh don't get it twisted...I'm having fun.

The amount of #hypocrasy around here is amusing AF to me.

#BronsNotTheOnlyPassiveAggressiveOneHereTho
#HashTagsHelpLightenTheMoodDoe
#HatahsBeHatinOnTheTagNow...whoa!
#DontHashahate,Participate
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#teamtank
#getmealottopick

 

@vasashi17 , you're a good dude. Known you since the CL days circa 2003 (16 years wtf!) plus you're Indian so we're basically brothers.

But bruh, for your own good...you gotta come to the realization that maybe this regime dropped the ball one too many times in a short amount of time. I'm not saying that Jim and Mitch would have fared much better and in fact, nothing is worse than the Mozgov/Deng signings and I'm sure everyone can agree with this.

However, when looking at the current regime regardless of any previous regime...they have dropped the ball thus far and their smaller moves have not been good and when you add them all up...you get what we currently have...a roster full of guys that just don't fit with each other.

Can all be forgiven if we land a superstar this summer via trade or free agency? Sure.

But like others have said...we're not creating the best environment to attract any potential FA as we stand right now...and if we miss the playoffs, it's going to raise questions on whether it's even worth coming to the Lakers if they couldn't even crack the playoffs over a superstar-less Clippers and Kings.

There's a lot of blame to go around...Jeanie, Magic, Rob, Luke, LeBron, the vets, the young core, the training and medical staff, Rich Paul, LeBron the AGENT (separate from LeBron the player), and Pelicans for acting in bad faith....but if I had to blame someone the MOST, I'd blame the FO for the current mess.

 

Fab4: "All is forgiven if we land a superstar this summer"...Bruh, look what you just said. How does one do that tho if they got to clean the s***?...they get dirty, that's how. Nearly 35% of our cap space was taken up with MozDeng, yet the mandate on Magic/Rob is to clean up the s*** AND sign 2max guys within the first 2 years they're on the job. With fans like yall, who needs haters haha?

Btw, I'm not sure if you heard or not, but I'm now African American with the aid of some magic pixie dust.

Zu and/or TB for a future 2nd round pick...it shoulda been done. It wasn't.
BLo kept on for the room exception instead of Beas at 3.5M....it shoulda been done. It wasn't.
Games vs Magic...wait vs Magic has me all up in my feelings, lets say vs Orlando instead..and the Knicks, ATL, Pels, Wiz, Cleveland...all shoulda been won. It wasn't.
Playmakers that want to run and gun with Bron, while we wait for that 2nd star to pair him with....it shoulda been fun if they had some run, but with injuries...it wasn't.

Still... 2 games back in the loss column for the playoffs with the opportunity to own the tiebreaker.

All the minutiae is what yall are focusing on, when the FO damn near pulled a rAdbit out of its hat.

You're talking about our bad culture...while we allowed a restricted free agent in Jules free passage, while the dubs didn't do that to McCaw. Now KD most likely out and Dray trying to secure that bag by signing to Klutch.

Our kiddies are shook...while Boston's kiddies aren't? They on hold till Ainge finds a target he can deal them for.

cLips have a better culture...forget what it says on a T-shirt they made, Blake will tell you otherwise.

NY has better culture...we may have traded an Allstar in DLo (and he admits its the best thing that happened to him), but they sold out on a damn unicorn.

Oh btw, Deng gave us back money...how'd the other buyout candidates handle their business with their respective teams?

#MustBeTheKulture

Savs: Kuzma was the best thing and it had nothing to do with them huh? Magic, without Rob, pulled off the 28th pick for Lou.
But it was Hart tho? Okay, then the FO traded for the 27th pick.
But Kuz coulda been had at the 28th pick tho? Nets had the 27th pick available and SA was interested in Kuz, sitting at the 29th pick. What's to say they don't leap frog us?

But still, Lou tho...8m on the books next summer and we don't have a max slot ( of the 30% or 35% variety).

Some of yall reachin crazy.....meanwhile, I'm good in reaching towards the playoffs...not much of a reach, with it being just 2 losses away.

#BawlOut
#Hypocrasysexycool
#YallNeedSomeTLC

 

Why I compare you Vash to the artist formally known as sirron in your core beliefs re: the FO and LBJ and his baggage. Both of you are / were "tenacious" .... same as was said about Laura Dern's character in the original Jurassic Park reaching into this dino pile. Thank you Jeffy.

 

LT...clever way to call me a piece of s***.

Sirron is definitely tenacious...said differently, ten-A-s***s. At least to me he is...tada might grade him differently tho.

Nah, I'm more of a d***.

#TenaciousD (damn and now I got a D on my transcripts)

 

Not at all bro. Tenacious is a good thing. As said yesterday I'm rooting for you to wind up right about all this and it turn out that Mag and Rob didn't actually take a good thing with our promising team and blow it all to hell.

 

one of the big issues is that vash begins and ends all arguments with the premise that the second max (or this summer's max) was necessary. i refuse to accept that stipulation, so a lot of the stuff goes null and void. lou for kuz: who's been the better player? by the time kuz is better, he'll make a lot more (that is, if we don't use him to dump someone in the interim). we could have been in the playoffs in the meantime.

there's a middle ground between mozdeng and two maxes. we apparently didn't consider it.

 

Yeah but no one will ever convince me that given the state of the anti-Lakers sentiment league wide we should have held onto Moz until we actually had commitment from a max eligible star last summer and then try to move him somewhere. They picked the perfect time to do it and where they f***** up was not keeping Brook who we also got in that trade.

 

I don't want to be right...I wanna be back. Imho, we're almost there.

What's null and void is apparently anybody trying to trade with us. Most to all the stars reside in the West, so not only do we have the Laker bias, but we have to worry about the conference thing as well.

The middle ground is a trade...but you have to have willing partners.

In terms of free agency, if the middle ground to you is Middleton, then you'll still have an angry mob asking for Magic/Rob's head. Wait...wasn't that you?

In terms of last summer: what's your middle ground? Max out Jules? Who would you have given a longterm commitment to, instead of stopgapping till the loaded 2019 free agent class?

 

so you acknowledge teams dont wanna trade with la but still riding that ad trade train next season?

 

I'd have to look at the list, but Jules would probably be in the QO right now.

The FA strategy I favor is young vets who haven't fulfilled promise elsewhere but could be reclamations. Portland does a good job with this, imo ( the summer they got ed Davis and a aminu in opening night of FA was particularly solid).

The one thing our org has is scouts--let's sign some diamonds on low money, longer deals. We've never tried it. Isaiah Thomas begged us to try it!

But we like fence-swinging.

And no, I wouldn't max Middleton. I'd salary absorb for picks (opposite of our summer strategy) before doing so.

 

Lol, literally as I type this, Clark son and nance just made some nice plays to catch Portland in the 4th.

 

I acknowledge any trade (particularly blockbuster superstar trades) is hard to conduct and I will still be revving up the klutch to that AD trade train this coming summer.

You fence swing till you lock up your star...and once they're locked up, then you can experiment with reclamations and such. Portland locked up Dame and McCollum and now they're more liberal with their spending with Nurk and Turner. Too liberal at times, which is what led to the Crabbe trade to BK.

Either way, my biggest fear is having a locked up roster with very little wiggle and you're stuck being just good enough to be middle of the pack, with no legit chance of competing for a title and no ability/alibi to really tank to get a good draft pick to help push the needle on the cheap...ie Portland.

 

Crabbe was big cash, though. You wouldn't want to be Portland right now? Moreover, what if you had portland's roster and our market/brand?

 

I give up. Blow it up.

 

Refs were garbage during those last two minutes.