2015 Nba Draft Discussion: Russell, Nance Jr., Brown

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  1. trodgers

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    Fa show fa show.
     
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    Russell

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    6.30 Scoring
    3.46 Passing
    2.63 Hustle
    82 Positional Efficiency (PG)
    81 Positional Efficiency (Wing)
     
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    Agreed completely. I like Winslow though. I think if he could capture his tourney run in a bottle and use it in the pros he could be a Harden-esque player but that's 100:1 odds he figures that out. Instead he'll have a hard time carving out a niche in the NBA unless he comes in with the same lock-down defensive ability that Stan Johnson has and I don't see that from Winslow. I think Winslow is a more opportunistic defender, but Johnson is just flat out a defender. Where Winslow can focus and try to defend, Stan is just born to do it. Just like Winslow is born to get into the paint and Stan has some trouble with that.

    I wouldn't begrudge someone taking Winslow who seems more offensively talented over Johnson, but I don't understand Johnson's huge slide here in the mocks. He's going to end up being a steal if he falls as far as some of these places are saying. I expect workouts to turn that around.
     
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    I feel like the Winslow and Johnson discussion is similar to the Wiggins and Parker of last year's draft. Johnson and Parker have the lower ceiling but higher floor, Winslow and Wiggins have the higher ceiling but lower floor.
     
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    I was under the impression that Johnson had that work ethic, and that's why I had him at #3 prior to the recent reports. I can't stand players that don't give it their all.

    Drafting a big will ease the process of trading or dumping Hill (and his $10 mil contract) so that's a plus too. We can get a promising SF if we trade up, or we can sign maybe a Middleton via free agency with that money.
     
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    Winslow

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    65 Positional Efficiency (Wing)
    (FWIW his stats play better as a big - 78 EFF)
     
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    2.19 Passing
    4.08 Hustle
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    3.76 Hustle
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    Mudiay

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    6.20 Scoring
    3.81 Passing
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    90 Positional Efficiency (PG)

    I confess I don't know what to make of these numbers compared to anything else. I don't know the league that well.
     
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    Christian Wood (for me):

    FROSH
    5.16 Scoring
    1.55 Passing
    3.55 Hustle
    74 Positional Efficiency (BIG)

    SOPH
    5.97 Scoring
    1.89 Passing
    3.68 Hustle
    90 Positional Efficiency (BIG)

    Career
    5.77 Scoring
    1.81 Passing
    3.65 Hustle
    86 Positional Efficiency (BIG)
     
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    Trodgers, RJ Hunter from Georgia State, please.
     
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    Hunter

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    6.06 Scoring
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    2.95 Hustle
    49 Positional Efficiency (Wing)

    SOPH
    6.32 Scoring
    2.18 Passing
    2.81 Hustle
    69 Positional Efficiency (Wing)

    JUNIOR
    6.17 Scoring
    2.90 Passing
    2.93 Hustle
    75 Positional Efficiency (Wing)

    His numbers look better as a big, but that just means he's not been as successful as a passer. As a JR he started getting it going more.
     
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    Thank you. 6'5 shooting guard with the ability to score. Actually, he's projected by DX as the 27th prospect; right around where our Houston pick is...
     
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    His Scoring Efficiency has been solid to good each year. It seems like he'd be the kind of player who'd be able to keep it going in the NBA.
     
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    That's what I project. I'm looking for specific players to build around Clarkson, Kobe, and Randle next year. The ability to spot-up shoot consistently and defend.
     
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    If we can't keep Ellington or move on from Swaggy P, I'd give Hunter a look. We have bigger needs right now, but if that changes...
     
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    really don't like hunter from the clips I've seen. weak, slow, and slightly undersized isn't a great combo, even if you're super skilled, which he appears to be. I've heard kevin martin comparisons, but he was WAY faster and a bit taller. I'd prefer an RHJ at that late pick.
     
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    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

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    Scoring 5.36
    Passing 2.28
    Hustle 3.48
    Positional 59 (Wing)

    SOPH
    Scoring 5.59
    Passing 2.21
    Hustle 3.31
    Positional 61 (Wing)

    He's another guy whose stats mean he scores better as a big (80 and 79, respectively). This means that he's not very good with the ball. He's going to have to be an elite defender because he can't do much else: doesn't shoot well, doesn't have good passing numbers, doesn't score efficiently, doesn't pick up much in the way of blocks and steals (but that's the thing he does best).
     
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    he's appropriately sized for sf, is quite long and athletic, and showed improvement in his offensive game over time. probably doesn't matter, as I'm guessing he won't be available in the late 1st after he shuts guys like hunter down in workouts. he has the tools to be an elite defender and showed them fairly often in college, imo.
     
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    btw, screw the spurs for costing the lakers a couple spots in the draft tonight.
     
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