Official Whine, Moan, Complain Thread 19/20-CLOSED "WE CHAMPS!"

How do you turn the ball over so many times in the first 5-10 minutes of the game? Fix that problem. Fortunately we played DAL and PHX, but other teams will not let us come back that easily after a horrific start.

 

Ingram’s free throws. How can a guard/small forward that’s supposed to be a scorer shoot 64% from the line? And I believe they said like over his 6-7 games he’s shooting around 50% so it’s dropping, just awful. Other than that and the early turnovers, no complaints, mainly wondering out loud how Ayton was the #1 pick. Maybe I haven’t seen enough of him? He’s basically a DeAndre Jordan, no offensive game, just dunks.

 

The problem is the Lakers aren't playing precise enough (like the Warriors) to play this free flowing and fast.

We throw outlet passes in the stands and expect other players to catch them. At the end of the day we have as many bad outlet passes as good outlet passes...and a 50% success rate isn't a good recipe in the NBA unless you talk about 3 point percentage.

LeBron, Lonzo and Ingram...all 3 are guilty. At least LeBron is usually in control and knows what he is doing but the other players aren't where they are supposed to be. BI and Lonzo are out of control with their passes and offense in general especially in half court. They try to do things that they aren't very good at.

Our back court is a mess in terms of control, partly due to age and partly due to inability. BI forces the issue on offense too often and doesn't take his time. He can easily get around most guards if he wants to, definitely on him to utilize his length better and be more patient offensively.

Lonzo is completely out of control within 15 feet of the rim, breaking the backboard with 12-15 footers and missing point blank layups under the rim or getting his shot spike blocked. KCP is generally out of control from everywhere. Only Hart knows what he is doing but he doesn't/isn't a typical ball handler that can calm down a team.

Its tough to have a team playing solid fundamental patient basketball with such a back-court. Need Rondo back quickly.

 

The first quarters down by double digits every single game has been wearing on me for some time. It's every freaking game, seemingly. I've been saying it for weeks, but it's time to shake things up and start Josh Hart. When he finally comes into the game we start playing defense and play less sloppy. Why don't we begin that way?

 

I hear you Vash, I just find it unwatchable and beyond irritating to see this starting unit suck every single game. It's a bad look.

To further my point about them, not only were we losing to the worst team in the league by 17 in the first quarter and needed to insert Hart to start playing decent ball and catch up. But the same starting unit took a 15 point cushion at half time and got outplayed by the worst team in the league, MINUS THEIR BEST PLAYER in Booker, letting the lead get whittled down to 12 over the first six and a half minutes of the third quarter. They just continued to play like garbage where they had left off in the first.

Guess what? We inserted Hart after that and in the next two minutes he hit back to back threes with feeds from Lebron and we were back up to 17, an actual increase rather than decrease on our halftime lead. It's simply not rocket science. We've seen a pretty good sample size lately of how awful the starters play together. It's time to switch it up. We are winning in spite of it rather than the starting lineup helping us.

 

No worries, Vash, I like discussing this regardless of which thread it's in, and feel free to do rebuttal even if I'm griping in the gripe section.

I don't worry about minutes with any of these young guys. In fact I want to see Lebron's minutes spent in the best way possible as to not grind HIM down. That's what bugs me the most about the starting lineup situation. I don't feel like they are using the time in the best or wisest way. Kuz and Hart and Ingram should all be around the same minutes IMO. Maybe Ingram the most minutes of the three right now because Rondo is out and BI is running a lot of the point with the bench.

Kuz and Hart though should be playing about the same and right now it's skewed a lot more towards Kuz, IMO to the detriment of our starting squad. More Hart means better all around play to me. Nothing against Kuz who is fun to watch and all.

Oh, and I'd rather be a top 3 seed than 6-8 any day.

 

Free throws again for the team but especially Brandon Ingram, dude your shooting around 50% from the line the last few games.

GET YOUR S*** TOGETHER!

 

We can only hope

 

My complaint is that getting off to terrible starts affects how the bench plays. It’s much easier for younger guys to play when they have a cushion, then when the have to play from behind every game. The job of the bench is to keep the lead not have to get the lead every game. Our starting unit is not cutting it.This needs to change. I don’t care who goes to the bench but Hart needs to start. We are expending WAY TOO much energy falling behind early in the game. It’s causing Lebron to play fourth quarters when he could be icing. Of course if Lebron and starters could actually hold on to the ball instead of turning it over every few plays that would go a long way.